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Bush & Blair at war over Arafat
The Sun ^ | June 27, 2002 | GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON

Posted on 06/27/2002 4:31:10 AM PDT by ejdrapes

Peace process tensions ... PM Tony Blair looking increasingly edgy next to President Bush yesterday

By GEORGE PASCOE-WATSON
Deputy Political Editor, in Calgary
TONY Blair and George Bush had their first public row yesterday as they tussled in a gym over the Middle East conflict. The PM refused to support President Bush’s call for Yasser Arafat to be toppled.

They slugged it out for 30 minutes on running machines alone in a hotel gym at the G8 summit of world leaders in Canada.

They then confirmed the rift as they sat side by side on live television with the President insisting: “I meant what I said. Something has to happen. There needs to be new institutions, constitution, and there needs to be elections.

But Mr Blair stood firm. And as the news conference grew more tense, he insisted: It is for the Palestinians to choose the people they elect. It is not a question of saying we are going to tell people who they will elect or not. That is for them to do.

The pair noticeably stood apart when they lined up to have their picture taken with other leaders. Downing Street last night admitted the gym talks were “frank and open. It added: Both sides were completely uninhibited.

Until now the PM and the president prided themselves on their common views on world security. But yesterday their differences over Palestinian leader Arafat burst into the public eye for the first time.


Election row ... Yasser Arafat says he will fight on

Tensions were increased when Arafat announced he will defy the US and stand for re-election in a January election. Palestinian cabinet minister Saeb Erekat unveiled the elections plan in the West Bank city of Jericho.

He also revealed that security services would be unified and the Palestinian Authority’s finances and courts would be overhauled under a 100-day plan. Downing Street declared Britain will continue to deal with Arafat if he is returned to power.

The US refused to make the same pledge.

The leaders had bumped into each other at a gym in a remote luxury hide away in the Rocky Mountains at 7am yesterday. Mr Blair put down his weights and the pair took to adjoining treadmills and thrashed out their differences, watched by guards. After showering, they resumed their argument during a 45-minute official meeting. Last night there were fresh tensions when the President shrugged off Britain's pledge of lbillion-a-year aid to Africa. In front of Mr Blair, he told the audience: All of us are doing as much as we possibly can in aid terms. I don't think this is a competition.


Guard ... tank keeping Arafat holed up yesterday
Picture: REUTERS

TANKS kept Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat holed up in his compound in Ramallah yesterday. Israeli troops have surrounded Arafat’s HQ since Monday as part of an offensive which has seen soldiers re-occupy seven West Bank towns and cities.

In Jenin, Palestinian officials claimed troops shot dead a seven-year-old boy as they enforced a curfew. Israeli military chiefs had no comment on the report, which came as they kept hundreds of thousands of Palestinians locked up in their homes. The crackdown comes after suicide bombings killed 26 Israelis.


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1 posted on 06/27/2002 4:31:10 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes
Sure, the Palestinians can elect "choose" their own leaders. But if the leadership they choose is not commited to peace and not transparent about the use of money received as aid, we also can "choose" not to send them any more.

Bravo Bush !

One + God is a majority.

2 posted on 06/27/2002 4:38:53 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: ejdrapes
Yasser Arafat: "We have election. For all Palestinian people."

Ballot

X for candidate of your choice
Note: Ballot pre-filled for convenience.
[X ] Yasser
[X ] Arafat
[X ] General Yasser
[X ] General Arafat
[X ] Chairman Yasser
[X ] Chairman Arafat


Yasser: "See we have election. Lots of candidates to choose from."
3 posted on 06/27/2002 4:42:54 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: TomGuy
LOL at least Blair has a shred of common sense. Perhaps Iraq should tell us who our leaders are to be.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 5:13:43 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: Pythagoras
LOL I just noticed how fat Blair looks in that picture.
5 posted on 06/27/2002 5:14:37 AM PDT by Pythagoras
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To: ejdrapes
"It is for the Palestinians to choose the people they elect."

The Palestinians are an international welfare case. Something like 3 out of 4 are dependent on foreign aid. You DON'T get to chose the people you elect, if you are a dependent. The US and Europe are paying the bills and we'll say what happens. You don't have to take the aid after all.

6 posted on 06/27/2002 5:51:46 AM PDT by Kermit
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To: Pythagoras
If Bush and Blair were "alone" when they "slugged it out", how did this reporter know and when did he know it?!
7 posted on 06/27/2002 5:51:48 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: Pythagoras
Sorry to rain on your parade, but The Sun was VERY selective of the picture they used, which was the only one of Blair NOT smiling (probably listening to the reporter from The Sun). Here's another picture, taken a few minutes before the one shown above:

In addition, here is the transcript of what Prime Minister Blair said in the joint press appearance yesterday, and I think he is on the same page as the President.

THE PRIME MINISTER: First of all, let me just make it clear, as I said to you yesterday, it's for the Palestinians to elect the people that they choose to elect. But if we're going to make progress, we need people that we can negotiate with, who are serious about negotiating around the issues of security and political reform necessary for the peace process to work.

So this is no question of us going in and saying to the Palestinians, look, we're going to run your election. But it is a question of us saying, if we want this peace process to work there are certain clear preconditions. One, we've got to have leadership we can negotiate with that is serious about peace and resists and totally rejects terrorism.

Two, we've got to have a security infrastructure in Palestine that has integrity. And, three, we've got to have political institutions capable of giving rise to the viable Palestinian state that we believe should be the outcome of this process.

So if in the end you want, as we want, an Israeli state that is confident about its own security and a viable Palestinian state, those are the preconditions. For Israel to be confident, it's got to have a negotiating partner that is serious about tackling terrorism.

Now, that is, I think, the essence of it. So, you know, it's not a question of saying we're going to tell people who they elect or not elect -- that's for them. But it's for us to say the consequences of electing people who aren't serious negotiating partners is that we can't move this forward.

Q And that's Arafat you're talking about --

THE PRIME MINISTER: Well, you know, as I said to you yesterday, we've had a situation over the past few years -- and I've tried as hard as anyone, I think I've had 30 different meetings with Chairman Arafat over the past few years. But as I said to you yesterday, you've got a situation where we have not been able to make progress and there has been an attitude towards terrorism that is inconsistent with the notion of Israel's security.

The complete transcript of President Bush and Prime Minister Blair's comments to the press are available at The White House web site

8 posted on 06/27/2002 6:03:28 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Ok it is a tabloid newspaper and we all know how they over dramatize things. But the bottom line is Britain, Russia (and I'm assuming every other European country) have said that IF Araft is re-elected they will respect the decision and deal with him. That is NOT the United States position. We want new leadership, but leaders that we approve of.
9 posted on 06/27/2002 10:56:30 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: Pythagoras
I don't think it's up to us to tell the Palestinians who their leaders should be, but we have a right not to deal with those who are corrupt and involved in terrorism (like Arafat is). If they believe the US is the only country that can give them a Palestine state , then they should choose their next leaders wisely, otherwise they can kiss statehood goodbye.
10 posted on 06/27/2002 11:00:21 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes
Hey, there are Blair's words from yesterday. It seems to me that he is diplomatically agreeing with the President. I suppose we wouldn't object to Arafat aas a figurehead, if he had no control and no money. Personally, I hope he is taken out by his own people before the elections.
11 posted on 06/27/2002 11:01:42 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: ejdrapes
Gees, a liberal getting pied at a liberal. At least Bush does not worship Arafat.
12 posted on 06/27/2002 11:03:09 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
I'll go with that in the interim:

THE PRIME MINISTER: First of all, let me just make it clear, as I said to you yesterday, it's for the Palestinians to elect the people that they choose to elect. But if we're going to make progress, we need people that we can negotiate with, who are serious about negotiating around the issues of security and political reform necessary for the peace process to work.

So this is no question of us going in and saying to the Palestinians, look, we're going to run your election. But it is a question of us saying, if we want this peace process to work there are certain clear preconditions. One, we've got to have leadership we can negotiate with that is serious about peace and resists and totally rejects terrorism.

13 posted on 06/27/2002 11:07:53 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Pythagoras
At least we know you side with the terrorists. Talk about lack of common sense.
14 posted on 06/27/2002 11:35:39 AM PDT by ohioman
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