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Pledge ruled unconstitutional
Washington Times ^ | 6/27/02 | Frank J. Murray

Posted on 06/26/2002 11:10:42 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:54:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A federal appeals court in San Francisco yesterday declared the Pledge of Allegiance an unconstitutional endorsement of religion and ruled that California no longer may require its recitation each morning in public schools.

"The statement that the United States is a nation 'under God' is an endorsement of religion," two of the three judges of a panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said. "It is a profession of a religious belief, namely, a belief in monotheism."


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1 posted on 06/26/2002 11:10:42 PM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
On Flag Day 1954, Congress amended it at the instigation of Rep. Louis C. Rabaut, Michigan Democrat, adding "under God."

Man, how things change over 48 years. I can't imagine ANY national Democratic figure proposing such a thing. There's a factoid for you...

2 posted on 06/26/2002 11:17:29 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: kattracks
This is just another attempt by the self-righteous extreme liberals (and liberal judges) to tell the majority of Americans how they can run their lifes. It is all a power and control game. The liberals say that the majority has to respect their views and be tolerant. Yet the liberals are not tolerant when it comes to telling the majority how to run their lifes. To remove the words "one nation under God" would be disrespecting the majority of Americans who at least believe in a supreme being. Nobody is telling anyone which god you have to worship, but the majority of Americans comprising nearly all religions believe in a supreme being which watches over us (be it Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buhddist, etc.). By removing the phrase "one nation under God", the rights and beliefs of the majority is again being squashed and ignored for the benefit of the extreme minority. How many objections in this country does it take to over rule the rights of the majority in this nation of millions --- just one extreme winer or wacko with too much time and money on their hands...or does it take ten or a hunderd, a thousand.

The rights of the minority are not being violated --- is his daughter forced to recite the pledge --- is someone taking notes on who actually says the pledge, is someone taking notes on who does not know the pledge, is someone taking notes on who is reciting the full pledge in its entirity --- and again is anybody humiliating anyone who does not fully comply? Of course, not.

The pledge is recited in respect and admiration of this country and its freedoms --- even the freedom of the vast minority to try to trample the rights of everyone else. However, the courts are not supposed to make up new laws and riduclous new interpretations of the constitution and our laws not based on reality or common sense. This wacko actually said that he fears for his life and family --- he has a security system. In many other countries, he would not even have the right to protest --- their security systems are 9 mm silencers used by Fidel and his likes around the world.

The pledge is recited to also show respect for the sacrifice of others before us and currently to put their lives at risk to defend our freedoms and at times lose them in defense of our freedoms and way of live. These judges don't even respect that. They should be removed they are obviously either senile, mentally unstable, or just don't even know enough about the intent of our legal system to be judges.

This will be overturned, but it is time for the majority of Americans to put an end to the constant assault on our beliefs and traditions by the power hungry liberals. The additional drain on our legal system and monetary resources which could be either productively used or (more productively) returned to the taxpayer directly. Tom Dashle and company are directly to blame for this now. Tom and the others in the (DNCs --- Deviates 'n criminals)should quit blocking Bushes appointments to the federal courts --- they were the biggest winers when even the totally wacko extremists of Clinton's judicial appointments were debated or blocked (not even the majority of his appointments). Power politics by the rats again.

The elections are coming, and it is more than time to fix the rat blockage of the Senate.
3 posted on 06/26/2002 11:52:21 PM PDT by Jerr
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To: Jerr
I'm an old guy and I remember the rampaging Warren Court coming up with anti-death penalty, pro-criminal, anti-God, and anti-patriotism rulings by judicial fiat for three decades. Every week in the sixties and seventies, we could watch Walter Cronkite explain the new horrors imposed by the unelected Thurbad Marshalls and Blackmuns and Brennans of the world, with many of these loonies appointed by Republican presidents. Reagan was our godsend, filling the judiciary with common sense during his eight years, and as a result everybody relaxed for awhile. These stupid rulings used to be quite common.

Carswell and Haynesworth were Nixon's attempts to put conservatives on the court. The liberals did exactly what they have done ever since, blocked up the nominations, and we got Stewart and Blackmun instead as a compromise, one bad the other worse. Since then the brawls over Bork and Clarence Thomas showed what the Bolshies will do to keep their judiciary. When the people go to sleep and elect a Clinton, it all falls apart again.

Of course Souder and Stevens were nominees of Bush and Ford, and both are very far to the left. The moderate Republicans can be very bad news when appointing judges.

On the bright side, the 9th circuit is nearly always overturned. They will probably overturn Christmas next. Aside from the media, few people take them seriously. That this story got the play it did shows you how delighted the libs are at their handiwork. And they got a Nixon fop to help make the decision for good measure. I thought Nixon was a crook and they hated him. I guess Trotsky was right. Anything for the revolution.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 2:16:00 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: kattracks
two of the three judges of a panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals

Hey, nevermind the people and their so-called elected representatives! -- two judges have ruled, hence it's the law of the land.

But at least they are consistent. Seeing as how the courts have already ruled that it's ok to burn the flag, how much sense does it make to pledge allegience to it?

5 posted on 06/27/2002 3:40:53 AM PDT by pariah
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To: kattracks
the mere fact that a pupil is required to listen every day to the statement 'one nation under God' has a coercive effect," the two judges of the panel said yesterday.

Ah, so merely listening to opinions you don't share has a 'coercive effect'? Well, I am just waiting anxiously for this wisdom to be applied to teaching evolution, sex education, and teachers 'coming out' in front of their classes. Oh, it only works in one direction, you say judge? Only atheists, gays and unpatriotic people can suffer such 'coercion'?

6 posted on 06/27/2002 3:49:22 AM PDT by pariah
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To: kattracks
This has probably been posted here, but doesn't it logically follow that schools, and every government institution for that matter, are not allowed to have money? After all, our money has a reference to God on it. When do we get it all back?
7 posted on 06/27/2002 5:36:18 AM PDT by inertia123
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