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RADIOFR NOW!!: Doug from Upland discussing the abortion billboards
RADIOFR LISTEN LIVE ^ | 6/26/2002 | Diotima

Posted on 06/26/2002 5:14:12 PM PDT by diotima

DFU RADIO HOUR 6/27

Abortion Promoters Will Want to Scream at the Guests!
Yes, FReepers and FReeperettes, all of those who support abortion will be screaming if they listen to the DFU Radio Hour on Thursday, June 27. Doug's guests will be Gillian Long and Stephanie Gray from The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform.

If you don't recognize the group, they are the ones who drive the billboards on freeways to show the real results of an abortion. It is not a choice --- it is a dead baby. People need to recognize such even if they have to be shown in graphic detail on the freeways.

Tune in at 6:00 PM Pacific Time on Thursday.

CLICK TO LISTEN LIVE

AND DON'T FORGET....



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; dfu; radiofr
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1 posted on 06/26/2002 5:14:12 PM PDT by diotima
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To: diotima
We have a big billboard not too far from us that says.........CHOOSE LIFE, YOUR MOTHER DID!
2 posted on 06/26/2002 5:17:11 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: doug from upland; agitator; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Ping!
3 posted on 06/26/2002 5:20:32 PM PDT by diotima
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To: diotima
I support the fine work these good folks are doing. The abortion clinics hide the truth but the truth will someday prevail. The more who see the horrors, the better.
4 posted on 06/26/2002 5:33:00 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: diotima
I'm convinced. I'll be listening.
5 posted on 06/26/2002 7:12:08 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: diotima
Break a leg, doug!
6 posted on 06/26/2002 8:05:54 PM PDT by brat
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To: All
Nominations are open for MORON OF THE MONTH.
7 posted on 06/26/2002 8:53:38 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: diotima
Pro-life bump
8 posted on 06/27/2002 5:20:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: doug from upland
Moron nominations anyone?
9 posted on 06/27/2002 6:26:23 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: diotima
Why is it that those on the political left who think very little of the unborn, find it perfectly acceptable to kill the unborn but scream that the pictures which show what they've done are what is horrific? The act is okay, but we dare not show what they've done.
10 posted on 06/27/2002 6:42:29 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
How about that idiot judge who wrote the pledge decision?
11 posted on 06/27/2002 6:46:19 AM PDT by Lulu
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To: All
BTTT! for Doug's show tonight!
12 posted on 06/27/2002 6:59:10 AM PDT by diotima
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To: diotima
Center for Bio-Ethical Reform online audio/video

13 posted on 06/27/2002 9:49:06 AM PDT by toenail
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To: doug from upland
Bumper sticker on car parked in such a way that the message is unavoidable when leaving the office.

(in your best Dr. Suess melodic voice)

"A person is a person no matter how small"

14 posted on 06/27/2002 9:50:25 AM PDT by R2
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To: Lulu
A good candidate, along with the atheist scum who wants a small minority to dominate the majority.
15 posted on 06/27/2002 9:54:28 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: diotima
Here are some of the insane people offended by reality:

http://www.prochoiceconnection.com/pro-can/9900win.html#gap

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GAP Display Destroyed at UBC

A student-sponsored version of the Genocide Awareness Project (GAP) made an unexpected appearance at UBC on November 23rd, but the display was torn down almost immediately by angry pro-choice students.

The GAP display, designed by the Center for Bio-ethical Reform (CBR) of California, attempts to equate abortion with genocide by featuring large, graphic billboards of aborted fetuses next to holocaust and slavery victims. GAP has been to numerous campuses across the United States, often leaving a trail of violence and lawsuits in its wake. This is because of the extremely shocking and hateful nature of the display, coupled with CBR's bully tactics and disregard for public safety.

In September, UBC had imposed conditions on GAP's presence on campus, including limits on location and length of stay, and a requirement to pay a $5,000 damage deposit plus security costs of $10,000 a day. GAP had demanded that UBC provide free security for its staff, but UBC's policy has always been to charge non-student groups for any security costs. CBR refused to pay and threatened UBC with a lawsuit, claiming that its freedom of speech rights were being violated. Meanwhile, the GAP display was effectively prevented from coming onto campus, the first time in North America this has ever happened to the Center for Bioethical Research. A large part of this success was due to the efforts of UBC Students for Choice, who organized an educational campaign about the true nature of GAP, and held a pro-choice rally that drew several hundred students on Sept. 29.

Then, without warning, a modified GAP display, organized and staffed by UBC's new Students for Life group, went up on the morning of Nov. 23, in front of the statue of the Goddess of Democracy at the Student Union Building. This central location had previously been denied to GAP because students are not able to avoid the display there. Apparently, Students for Life received permission from UBC to mount a one-day, scaled-down display using smaller posters. It is believed that this deal was reached in exchange for CBR dropping its threatened lawsuit against the university. Unfortunately, UBC and Alma Mater Society officials failed to inform anyone that the display was about to go up. UBC counselling offices were caught severely understaffed the day of the display. At least two dozen angry, traumatized women sought help, with an unknown number also seeking support from off-campus support groups.

Even more shocking, no security at all was provided for the mini-GAP display. As noted by a Ubyssey guest editorial, this indicated GAP's complete disregard for public safety, especially in light of the incendiary discord that CBR/GAP had incited on campus over the previous two months.

As soon as the display went up, word spread quickly. Within two hours, in a fit of rage, three pro-choice students destroyed the display, overturning tables and ripping up posters. The students were Erin Kaiser, founder of UBC Students for Choice, Jon Chandler, and Lesley Washington. The entire incident was videotaped by one of the Students for Life, a technique learned from GAP staff, who regularly videotape their opponents in order to identify local pro-choice leaders. They even videotape vehicles and licence plate numbers -- in fact, such footage was on the tape of the incident later shown to authorities.

After the destruction of the display, Students for Life salvaged what they could and set up some of the signs again. Other members of Students for Choice, joined by passers-by, then peacefully picketed the display for several hours.

Personally, Erin Kaiser was deeply offended and angered by the display. She emphasized that she does not object to debate on the issue of abortion, but that the GAP display constituted hate propaganda that she felt was targeted at her personally. As she explained on CKNW's Rafe Mair show (Nov. 23): "Not only am I a woman who had an abortion last month, but I'm also a Jewish woman. If my grandfather were alive today, as a Holocaust survivor, to see the Holocaust being exploited so that his granddaughter would be accused of being a murderer, on her own campus, there would have been more than overturning tables. They're calling me a murderer. I'm the same as the Nazis who killed the Jews? I'm the same as the KKK who killed the black people in the United States? I'm the same as them because I chose to have an abortion? I don't think it's a matter of freedom of expression. I consider this hate. I consider it hate literature." Kaiser was also angered by the unannounced appearance of the display after she had worked so hard to educate the university on GAP's hateful and hostile agenda.

Students for Life threatened legal action against the pro-choice students, as well as academic discipline and student court. The group went before the student council to call for disciplinary measures against the pro-choice students, but a motion to refer the case to student court was defeated. The council stated the incident had nothing to do with the Alma Mater Society, since the students were acting as individuals, and not on behalf of AMS. The AMS had previously voted against the presence of GAP at the Student Union Building due to public safety concerns.

Students for Life then approached the RCMP, who are currently investigating. UBC brass have also scheduled a disciplinary hearing against Kaiser in March. Meanwhile, Kaiser is filing a complaint with the BC Human Rights Commission against GAP itself, as well as with the campus equity office. Kaiser says the GAP display discriminates against women.

Anti-choice groups decried the destruction of the GAP display as an act of violent vandalism, and are using the incident to try and paint BC's pro-choice movement in a damaging light. However, the Pro-Choice Action Network has never advocated or condoned violence of any sort (in spite of libelous rumours to the contrary); in fact, we voiced cautions and concerns to UBC Students for Choice over the potential for violence, and stressed the importance of non-confrontation even when provoked. Although we regret the actions of the UBC pro-choice students, we cannot assign blame to them. In putting up the display, GAP/Students for Life showed such poor judgment that they bear culpability for what happened. They erred in putting up the display unannounced, which directly fuelled the anger that caused the incident. They failed to ensure adequate security with the full knowledge that their display would inflame people. And finally, they were foolhardy in putting up the display at all, knowing that at UBC at least, the posters were widely viewed as hate propaganda.

In defending GAP, the anti-choice movement has very cynically cloaked themselves in the mantle of freedom of speech to defend their "right" to display offensive signs. First, they don't understand that with rights come responsibilities. Just as one must never yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre, so the GAP sponsors should not have so irresponsibly displayed obscenities that are profoundly intolerant of the rights of half of humanity. Second, if the shoe was on the other foot, and we lived in a country controlled by an anti-choice majority with laws against abortion, you can be sure there would be no such thing as freedom of speech -- because the anti-choice secretly abhor it. Any pro-choice dissent would be quickly quashed, with "offenders" likely jailed.



16 posted on 06/27/2002 10:14:22 AM PDT by toenail
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To: diotima
Of all the songs I've written, this one was one of the most emotional and one of which I am most proud.

MIDI - ALL OUT OF LOVE

It’s twenty one weeks and the baby is ill
But what is the doctor to do?
He’s there in the womb and there isn’t much hope
A miracle soon comes true
Mom says “Operate…because Samuel needs help”
The whole thing is very well planned
The doctor’s surprised when his finger is grabbed
“My God, it is Samuel’s hand…tiny hand

They’re not tissue mass…they are not a choice, now
Come join if you will…by raising your voice now
They’re not tissue mass…my God, they are babies
Abortion is wrong…it’s got to be stopped somehow

For too many years many babies like him
Are ripped from their safe mother’s womb
Purveyors of death taking innocent life
Hell waits for those in that room

They’re selfish and cruel…they are evil indeed
How many more babies must die?
We can’t turn our heads…we all have to stand up
'Cause we hear the angels cry…angels cry

They’re not tissue mass…they are not a choice, now
Come join if you will…by raising your voice now
They’re not tissue mass…my God, they are babies
Abortion is wrong…it’s got to be stopped somehow

Oh, how many more must die…can't you hear angels cry?
How many more must die…can't you hear angels cry?

They’re not tissue mass…they are not a choice, now
Come join if you will…by raising your voice now
They’re not tissue mass…my God, they are babies
Abortion is wrong…it’s got to be stopping

They’re not tissue mass…they are not a choice, now
Come join if you will…by raising your voice now
They’re not tissue mass…my God, they are babies
Abortion is wrong…it’s got to be stopping

They’re not tissue mass…they are not a choice, now
Come join if you will…by raising your voice now
They’re not tissue mass…my God, they are babies
Abortion is wrong…it’s got to be stopping

17 posted on 06/27/2002 10:18:21 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: toenail
Why do people who think abortion is ok get offended by the pictures?
18 posted on 06/27/2002 10:26:59 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
"Why do people who think abortion is ok get offended by the pictures?"

Some people simply can't deal with reality, and they get hostile at anything that intrudes into their fantasy life.

19 posted on 06/27/2002 10:30:33 AM PDT by toenail
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To: doug from upland
Every dem times 41,000,000!
20 posted on 06/27/2002 10:42:59 AM PDT by Chad Bagwell
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