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Mueller in Keynote Controversy (Addresses American Muslim Council)
Washington Post ^
| June 25, 2002
| Dan Eggen
Posted on 06/25/2002 9:26:39 AM PDT by OKCSubmariner
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III is coming under fire from some conservatives for agreeing to deliver a keynote address this week to the American Muslim Council, a group whose founder has declared support for the Hamas and Hezbollah militant groups.
The council, which is holding a four-day convention in Alexandria that begins Thursday, also has urged members to contribute to two charities, the Holy Land Foundation and the Global Relief Foundation, whose assets have been frozen by the Bush administration for alleged ties to terrorists.
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The Clinton administration also courted the American Muslim Council by meeting with them in the WHite House around the time of the OKC bombing in 1995. Kenneth Timmerman of Insight magazine wrote several articles connecting the American Muslim COuncil members to support terrorism and also donating heavily to Clinton and Gore.
These same people were connected to Holy Land Foundation including Khalid Mahfouz, a wealthy Saudi business partner and donar for GW Bush. Mahfouz has backed Hamas and AlQaeda activities incliding the bombing of the USS COle.
GW Bush lawyers Akin and Gump also were the attorneys for the Holy Land Foundation and Infocom in Dallas. These organizations both were using the internet to funnel money to Hamas, Iraq and ALQaeda when InfoCom was shut down by an FBI raid on September 5, 2001 just before the 9/11 attacks. I wonder if the FBI learned anymore about the 9/11 attacks from the InfoCOm raid in Dallas?
The FBI still is allowing Hamas to operate in OKC so the FBI can continue to follow Hamas operatives. The state Department and DOJ have told the FBI that the FBI is not to take actions in OKC against HAmas that might make it appear that Hamas is being persecuted for religious reasons and upset sensitive Middle East peace negotiations with the Saudis and other Islamic Arabs.
I find this policy, which has been followed by Clinton and Bush, to be objectionable because it puts Oklahoman and American citizens at risk from terrorist attack. It is believed that the 1993 WTC attacks, the 1995 OKC bombing and the 9/11 attacks were all assisted by Hamas groups in OKC.
Hamas is a terrorist organization. Hamas members are not freedom fighters and Hamas followers who say they are Islamicists are not for peace in spite of what GW Bush, Colin Powell and the Saudis have tried to claim in recent months. Hamas in OKC should be broken up and its members should be deported or arrested.
To: Uncle Bill; Wallaby; Fred Mertz; MizSterious; glorygirl; B4Ranch; lawdog; archy; Ronneil; honway; ..
FYI
To: OKCSubmariner
The Insanity in D.C. is without a doubt Contagious.
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:29:33 AM PDT
by
rdavis84
To: rdavis84
Yup. The director the FBI giving a keynote address to an Al Qaeda front group. Osama Bin Laden might as well be in the audience. Alas the political correctness that passes for stupidity in Washington D.C knows no limits.
To: OKCSubmariner
This is an outrage.
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:36:36 AM PDT
by
Bigg Red
To: OKCSubmariner
Collousion? Why in the Holy Hell would Bush have the same attorneys as Holy Land Foundation and Infocom ?
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:38:11 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: OKCSubmariner
Emerson equates AMC with terrorists, as well. I find the OKC connection to plausible too refute. I have found it very difficult to believe that given the amount of people in these groups in and around OKC in the 90's,that Mcviegh and Nichols,two boobs, acted on thier own hook when they blew up the Murrah Bldg.
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:42:18 AM PDT
by
cardinal4
To: cardinal4
Im sorry;TOO plausible TO refute. Oops!
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:43:46 AM PDT
by
cardinal4
To: goldstategop
But if he had spoken to the Council of Conservative Citizens, he would have been crucified.
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posted on
06/25/2002 9:43:56 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
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To: cardinal4
That's Joe Farah's point. In fact to this day the government has refused to acknowledge a possible Middle Eastern connection to the OKC bombing. They executed Timothy McVeigh in part to make sure he couldn't reveal anything that might embarrass them. No one is saying McVeigh was innocent but in view of what we know now one can make a good case radical Muslims were active in much of America way before 2001. And how many warning signs were overlooked, discounted, ignored, or dismissed because it didn't fit the FBI's preconceived "Christians are the real terrorists" template back then. You gotta wonder.
To: Eagle Eye
FYI
Please see reply #1 and other replies on this thread.
To: goldstategop
For me its even simpler than that. Mcviegh was caught hours after the bombing. They way those two(Nichols and Mcvigh) did it,Inspector Closeau would have caught them. I just dont believe two twits like these are smart enough to even grasp the right wing mantra and anti government rhetoric, the Xlinton administration pounced upon right after the bombing. Just my opinion.
To: OKCSubmariner
So did the Bush administration court AMC and others, thanks to Uncle Grover. But I have no clue what tis is all about.
To: goldstategop; cardinal4
"And how many warning signs were overlooked, discounted, ignored, or dismissed because it didn't fit the FBI's preconceived "Christians are the real terrorists" template back then. You gotta wonder."
It should also be constantly remembered that the Arab ties are significant to the Bush business interests. That has been posted repeatedly. The FBI WILL protect the politicians money involvements at all costs, even if the cost is to appear stupid. The best example is the denial of M.E. involvement in OKC. Another is the much verified Saudi origins of the WTC murders.
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06/25/2002 10:02:20 AM PDT
by
rdavis84
To: cardinal4
I just dont believe two twits like these are smart enough to even grasp the right wing mantra and anti government rhetoricOh, God Lord, man... McVeigh was selling copies of The Turner Diaries at gun shows, visiting racist compounds like Elohim City, etc, etc. I too believe that a colusion with some other group or individual is at least a possibility, but the notion that McVeigh was a dupe who didn't really understand what was going on, or didn't have his own motivation, just doesn't fly.
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posted on
06/25/2002 10:02:24 AM PDT
by
Stultis
To: Stultis
I just think the bubmbling displayed by those two,would lead one to conclude that they HAD to have help. Yes I know Mcviegh did all of those things. But he should have known a 10 year old clunker up I-35 right after the bombing would be stopped,but he drove illegally,with a GUN IN PLAIN VIEW to the OK trooper who stopped him. As radically anti-government as he was purported to be, he should have know law enforcement policies would be in that situation. Hell,I know them,and Im a law abiding citizen. He was caught too easily for someone who hung out at gunshows,places like Elohim City,etc. Those people are paranoid by nature.They would have known how to avoid the cops. I stand by my assesment. Those two boobs had to have help,because they werent smart enough to pull something like this off on their own.And they still got caught!
To: OKCSubmariner
"It is considered by most experts to be a mainstream Muslim organization in the United States," said FBI spokesman Bill Carter.What "experts?" Grover Norquist? The "experts" at the FBI? Must be -- since they'd be hard-pressed to find any bonafide terrorism expert so stupid as to label the AMC as "moderate."
To: browardchad; OKCSubmariner; aristeides; Iwentsouth; Fred Mertz; rdavis84
Alamoudi, the ex-leader of the group, is related to the Al-Amoudi of the Al-Amoudi/Mahfouz partnership that funds Bin Laden.
Bush had Alamoudi visiting the White House after 9/11.
Alamoudi is a biochemist.
A biochemist as in part of my "Bin Laden Medical Matrix".
Bush, Cheney,Ashcroft,Mueller,can all go to hel*.
When these elites come out of their bunkers,there will be a few peons who have survived, and they will remember!
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posted on
06/25/2002 12:44:35 PM PDT
by
Betty Jo
To: orangeyman
Never Forget...Hillary had a fndraiser by these people, the American Muslim Council and tried to pass it off on her campaign papers that she has to file as American MUSEUM Council!!!! So WHY should ANY self-respectig Jew vote for Hillary...they gave her this FUNDRAISER!!! The TERRORISTS gave her a FUNDRAISER!!!!
The Clinton's are the Terrorists BEST FRIENDS!!
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