Email: The Future of Free Republic

Email | 06/25/02 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

The following email is being circulated to our members by various disgruntled former FReepers:

Subject: The Future of Our Free Republic

Dear Fellow Free Republic Member,

Many of us at Free Republic are distressed by the extraordinary level of censorship that has been so obviously going on. It is very obvious that individual posts, entire threads, and the entire work of members who have been highly regarded are disappearing into a Memory Hole.

Scores of us have organized an e-mail network that is independent of the communication controls presently, and sadly, being used at our Free Republic. We have carefully documented the unmistakeable evidence that most of the posts, threads, and posters that are vaporized completely are overwhelmingly targeted for their political stance on the Right. These are not Leftwingers. These are not even Middle-of-the-Roaders. These are not disruptors. These are not foul-mouthed delinquents. These are fellow patriots on the Right who disagree with the controllers of FR on specific issues that are now hotly debated by the Right. We have documented that FR will parade before you, as if to hide all of the great posters whose work has been destroyed, a straw-man delinquent that has been banned. This is deceptive.

Treating these fellow patriots on the Right so shabbily is not right. As shabbily as those banned into the Memory Hole are being treated, the most shabbily treated of all are all of the good folks on Free Republic themselves. We came here for honest debate. Free Republic advertised itself as a Forum for honest debate. Without that honest debate...everything at Free Republic becomes shabby.

We can do much better. As a measure of how intense the simmering feelings have gotten among members on this unjustifiable use of deleting, censoring, and banning please link to the following thread. You will notice that one simple and sincere plea from one of our finest members has spontaneously touched off a prairie fire of approximately 500 posts in a mere 18 hours. If it isn't Memory Holed this thread may shoot into the thousands.

If you would like to receive anonymous updates of information concerning the hundreds of Freepers who have networked via e-mail to restore the wonderful honest debate to Free Republic, just drop an e-mail of just one or two words if you like for extreme brevity to:

StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com

And, here's that link back to the snowballing thread at FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/704701/posts

Thank you so much for giving your thought to this vital matter for our Internet home.

Sincerely, StopCensoringUs@hotmail.com

[Cultural Jihad]

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"You missed the fun earlier...they posted a site for people to do live comment on radio FR. Well, a very unsecure site, anyone could go there and post any user name, (in hindsite, I would have gone in as Cultural Jihad) Arator and I went in as Boob Dull and Ballpeen, and we started asking questions about the anynomods, the 501C(3) BS, where the money was, what happened to Clinton's a Liar, the mods reading private email...yadda

We hit the hornets nest! Angry replys, the obligitory (you liberal!) name calling, the blind allegiance....of course they banned us.

Funny thing, I was able to re-enter the site twice, no security, just a warning that disruptors may be on line, and a request that you freepmail Registered with your name (your papers please?)

It was hilarious to piss them off!!!!"

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Cent_Scrutiniser
(rebel)
06/12/02 02:59 AM

Nazi-like tactics which the libertine libertarians call "liberty".

[sweetliberty]

"Don't normal people AVOID things that they hate?"

NORMAL being the operative word here.

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for the kind words! Folks like you made it all worth it!

[WIMom]

Hear, hear! I second it! 4CJ is a class act.

[nunya bidness]

Spit it out. I don't understand your point.

[Lancey Howard]

One of the problems is that both major parties prop up those third parties which can do the most damage to their opponents. You better believe that the Democrat Party hacks love the Libertarians, and they simply adored Perot. Remember - - Scumbag never broke the 50% mark in his elections. The closest thing the Republicans have to a Libertarian Party is the Green Party.

Perhaps if the Republicans could covertly push a 'Socialist-Dykes-On-Bikes Party', and a 'Global-Welfare-State Party', and a 'Fisting-First Party', they could get a whole lot of Democrats to waste their votes the way some conservatives do when they vote third party.

[TLBSHOW]

I keep the enemy close.

[TLBSHOW]

a sick bunch of dim wits

[Cultural Jihad]

Spit it out. I don't understand your point.

It seems obvious enough that according to ideologues, free will is for the Great Ones (perverts and criminals) alone to enjoy, while Jim Robinson should apparently have no free will to manage his own server as he sees fit.

[BluesDuke]

Versus the third party doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell yet? Whatever our conservative political leanings, conservativism is dead if the liberals take control. And don't give me the RINO talk. We will have a greatere chance of true conservative reform with the republicans as we would with the democrats.

Then show me a Republican Party that walks the walk when it talks the talk.

Do you really believe Dashcle will advance a conservative agenda with a stronger liberal senate given to him by a third party vote?

I'm not entirely certain whether I will go the third party route again myself, but do you really believe that anyone is responsible for a Senate (or House) majority becoming Democratic other than those who vote explicitly for the Democrats? If you didn't vote for the Democrat, you're not responsible if they take the majority. Period-dot-period.

Get real if you think that a third party will advance conservativism right now. The third party will happen if and only if the republicans wimp out with a majority.

What do you mean, if? Or only? It has been done. We had a solid Republican majority on Capitol Hill that could have and should have stopped the Clinton Administration stone cold dead; we had a Republican Party in better than strong enough position to throw him out on his big fat ass in the 1996 election when he was prime and ripe for a knockout punch...and they wimped. Big time.

The power a politician acquires for government will survive long after his photo opportunities have been forgotten. People must realise that the government in recent years has become far more of an enemy to their rights and liberty. People must recognise that government is now the most dangerous predator.

The vast majority of government agencies can neither be reinvented nor reformed. If Americans want good government, hundreds of failed government programs must be abolished and legions of laws that turn government into a public nuisance must be repealed. All other "reforms" will merely prolong the abuse of the American people.

- James Bovard, in "feeling your pain": The Explosion and Abuse of Government Power in the Clinton-Gore Years, a book that should have been required reading for anyone deigning to exercise his or her right to vote in 2000.

Until then, it ain't going to happen. I'm a realist, and reality says it won't happen. Not with a liberal house. At least the republicans will have a say in who heads the committees. We can work on the RINO's after that. We will never be able to root out liberals with a liberal house and senate. They have too much power. Now is our opportunity to change. I really wish those who feel otherwise could see the big picture.

"Now is our opportunity to change." Now, where have I heard that before? "I really wish those who feel otherwise could see the big picture." Now, whom have I heard tootling that horn before? (Hint: He and his minions tootled it so far beyond its tolerability that he was lucky to escape from the Speaker's chair with his skin still attached to his skeleton after the 1998 seat losses on the Hill.) That attitude, and those "big picture" compromises (like the 1995-96 farm bill; like the subsequent budgets in which Republicans - who were supposed to know better; not for nothing has David Frum said, Of course God made conservatives and Republicans, to keep the liberals and the Democrats from spending us into oblivion - were not only proffering budget increases beyond what even the Droopy-Drawers Administration would ask but had the absolute nerve to say that merely making the spending increases a little less than the last spending increases were actually budget cuts, with only too many people fool enough to believe them) are what turned a solid Republican Hill majority into one hanging in the balance now.

I would not vote for a Democrat even with a gun at my back. (Well, maybe if Sam Ervin was alive, I'd vote for him, as indeed would I vote for anyone who said and believed The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey - undiluted and untaxed.) But I am fed up to the proverbial teeth with Republicans (Ron Paul and his small but imperative Republican Liberty Caucus being honourable exceptions - underline exceptions) talking the talk and not walking the walk. How much longer before they finally get it? And what will the damage prove at last to be when (if?) they finally get it?

We do not owe any political party a damned thing. Serious parties (George F. Will said this once) try to shape as well as seduce the nation. If anything, all things considered, it is the Republican Party who owes us a full and proper account as to why they talk the talk but do not walk the walk; as to why they have failed to do their alleged job of reconstituting, upholding, and defending freedom, individual rights and sovereignty, and properly construed government (government whose sole legitimate business is to stay the hell out of your business, my business, every citizen's business, unless - big unless - a) one citizen would obstruct or abrogate a fellow citizen's equivalent rights, and b) another nation would obstruct or abrogate our legitimate rights as a sovereign nation) as opposed to the improperly consecrated State. An account...not excuses.

[oldvike]

Actually, I would kinda like to know what happened to Clinton's a liar. Anybody know????

[TLBSHOW]

you are correct here is an example of 2 tlb's from a afer site of arators. I had to register as TLBSHOW007 because of the fake TLBSHOW

From: TLBSHOW 6/26/2001 12:20 am
To: TLBSHOW007 (10 of 24)

827.10 in reply to 827.8

awww why... awhat...MY POST #9 was ***DELETED***
I exPOSED TLFAKE007 as HOWLIN, because IT IS HOWLIN.

ARATOR!

Why did you pull my post, because your IN CAHOOTS WITH HOWLIN? So HOWLIN runs this site too, write? Well screw that I have had p with the Guild, I dont need there reach reaching here, SCREW THAT.

I dont need that I dont think rreunion needs that either

***TLBSHOW007=HOWLIN***

[brat]

"Then they proclaim "Free Republic will die at 9:30 on February 8th" and so forth."

LOL Don't they know that Free Republic will NEVER die? That its the best site on the web? That we love FR and wouldn't think of leaving or undermining it?

[catfur]

Whew! This thread is almost as much fun as Basil's long ago "test" thread. Lots of FReepers posting whom I haven't seen in some time (including me). Of course I'm just a Jim Robinson sycophant and totally addicted to FR at every chance I get! Long live FR!!!!!!

[Howlin]

LOL!

[TLBSHOW]

see post 833 i am you and you are me LOL

[BluesDuke]

see post 833 i am you and you are me LOL

So who is the eggman and who is the walrus? ;)

[Eddie Haskell]

That looks like it could be Spongebob's cousin.

[Howlin]

coocoocachoo?