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Immigration: the third rail
Mercury News ^ | 6/24/02 | Dan Walters - Sac Bee Columnist

Posted on 06/24/2002 9:38:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:29:30 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Social Security, it's been said, is the third, electrified rail of American politics. Touch it and you risk political electrocution.

In California, the same can be said of immigration, whose sensitivity has become a staple of state political campaigns. Politicians cannot endorse unrestricted immigration, or advocate public benefits for undocumented immigrants, without running the risk of alienating California voters. But neither can they appear to be anti-immigrant without angering the fast-growing Latino voting bloc.


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: immigrant; immigration
Without immigration, in other words, California population growth would be zero.

Wow!!

1 posted on 06/24/2002 9:38:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists



GO SIMON

2 posted on 06/24/2002 9:39:15 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Must it, therefore, merely accept the impacts, positive and negative, of the flow into the state?

The Center for Immigration Studies estimates that every illegal alien takes $55K more from the system than they contribute. No, I do not think we should "merely accept" this negative impact and I am tired of paying for it.

3 posted on 06/24/2002 9:47:53 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: NormsRevenge
Without immigration, in other words, California population growth would be zero.

You have to realize that, thanks to uncontrolled immigration, high tax rates, congestion, political correctness, etc., there has also been net emigration from California of residents (many of them long-time residents) to the Northwest and Mountain States. These are typically middle class people, often Republicans, that the state elite is glad to see go. Immigration isn't the reason California is growing in population---it's just the reason it's becoming a Third World cesspool.

4 posted on 06/24/2002 9:58:36 AM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: NormsRevenge; gubamyster; Map Kernow
US BORDER PATROL, MEXICAN BORDER, APPREHENSION INFORMATION

Date Range: 09/12/2001 To 06/11/2002

(last updated 06/11/2002)

In the 9 months since September 11th, the US Border Patrol has apprehended 661,605 illegal aliens attempting to cross the US/Mexico border illegally.

These are the official numbers per Border Patrol Sector:

San Diego Sector - 69,749
El Centro Sector - 75,093
Yuma Sector - 31,245
Tucson Sector - 233,215
El Paso Sector - 64926
Marfa Sector - 8,553
Del Rio Sector - 53,794
Laredo Sector - 62,149
McAllen Sector - 62,881

Some of these apprehensions are what we call recidivist apprehensions. A recidivist apprehension, is an illegal that has been apprehended before. That apprehension may have been during the reporting period or it may have been before the reporting period and the illegal may have been apprehended several times.

For this presentation, I will subtract the recidivist apprehensions from the total apprehensions. 661,605 - 256,882 = 404,723.

This gives our base figure of new illegal alien apprehensions. This figure is not 100% accurate, as some apprehensions go unreported and we have removed the aliens that have been apprehended by the INS before.

So, since September 11th, the US Border Patrol has apprehended approximately 404,723 new illegal aliens attempting to illegally cross the US/Mexico border.

The Border Patrol estimate that they apprehend only 20% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States. That means 4 illegal aliens get through for every one apprehended.

Independent Immigration experts estimate that the Border Patrol apprehends only 10% of the illegal aliens crossing into the United States. That means 9 illegal aliens get through for every one apprehension.

For this presentation, I will use the Border Patrol estimate of 20%.

So, if the Border Patrol apprehended 404,723 new illegal aliens since September 11th, the number of illegal aliens that made it into the United States undetected would be approximately 1,618,892. Although it could be as high as 3,642,507.

This is an average of over 6,000 illegal aliens crossing into the United States from Mexico, undetected daily.

You must remember that these figures only reflect approximately 60% of the illegal aliens attempting to enter the US. I have not included the official US Ports of Entry along the US/Mexico border or the US/Canada border and I have not included any airport or interior apprehensions or the Border Patrol apprehensions along the US/Canada border. Using those numbers, would push the daily total of illegals entering the US to over 10,000.

5 posted on 06/24/2002 11:29:49 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: NormsRevenge
Guess what is making people leave.

If proper control of immigration were to occur, just maybe not so many would be trying to escape the consequenses of the invasion.

6 posted on 06/24/2002 1:55:21 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: Marine Inspector
Note the figures for the Tucson sector---one of my cousins lives there, and he reports that at the rate illegals of coming in, we'll need to demand our money back from the Gadsden Purchase (the land deal in the 1850's where we bought the Tucson area from the Mexicans). It's as if the Mexican government were "dumping" its excess population on the border states, like so much "waste." Really a shameful situation for us and the Mexicans.
7 posted on 06/24/2002 2:44:30 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
Agreed.

8 posted on 06/24/2002 3:11:44 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: gubamyster; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Do you know anything about the "Immigrant Student Rights Project"? Or Santa Ana Unif Sch Dist board member named Nadia Davis? Or, why Gray Davis appointed her to the state Commission of Teach Credentialing? I like to know the
dollars being sent on her pet program.

How I wish the OC Register would print the word 'Legal' or
the word 'Illegal' in front of the word 'Immigrant'!
9 posted on 06/24/2002 5:46:16 PM PDT by seenenuf
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To: seenenuf
BTW, the freeways could use a couple years of zero growth, and the high school kids could get a job at a drive-thru!

If illegal immigration is a non-event, then I have
less compunction about the letter of the law.
Sometimes too much of any thing has to have an off switch.
10 posted on 06/24/2002 5:52:47 PM PDT by seenenuf
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To: seenenuf
If you want to see items regarding illegals, ask sabertooth to get on his ping list!

I have not been able to keep up with what he has pinged me on!

But he is one freeper prety hot on the topic!

11 posted on 06/24/2002 6:24:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: seenenuf
Do you know anything about the "Immigrant Student Rights Project"? Or Santa Ana Unif Sch Dist board member named Nadia Davis? Or, why Gray Davis appointed her to the state Commission of Teach Credentialing?

No, this is all new to me!

12 posted on 06/24/2002 6:26:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: seenenuf
Found this via Google:

Advocate for Children's Publications:

13 posted on 06/24/2002 6:30:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine Inspector
It's good to see your informative post here this evening.


14 posted on 06/24/2002 6:41:55 PM PDT by Brownie74
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To: Brownie74
Thank you.
15 posted on 06/24/2002 8:02:34 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Brownie74
BUMP
16 posted on 06/24/2002 8:05:47 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Sabertooth
Just in case either of you are reading this NOW in real time, while C-SPAN-2, is at this moment discussing National standardized ID cards, and how it originated after 9-11, for benefit of un documented workers.....
17 posted on 06/24/2002 9:27:56 PM PDT by seenenuf
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