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Pentagon official to review military swaps in China (Military Exchanges )
Reuters ^ | 22 June, 2002 | By Jim Wolf

Posted on 06/22/2002 8:07:20 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian

Pentagon official to review military swaps in China

22 June, 2002

By Jim Wolf

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A Pentagon official will hold talks in China next week aimed at boosting the military-to-military ties still not fully recovered from the collision of a U.S. surveillance plane and a Chinese fighter over the South China Sea, Pentagon officials said Friday.

Peter Rodman, assistant secretary of defence for international security affairs, will push for "transparency and consistency and reciprocity" during his talks in Beijing, Rumsfeld told a briefing for foreign correspondents.

Pentagon officials said this means the United States wants more of a chance to observe Chinese forces in exchange for letting them watch U.S. forces up close.

The United States has curtailed military exchanges such as ship visits and invitations to observe war-games since a Navy EP-3 electronic surveillance aircraft collided with a Chinese interceptor off Hainan Island on April 1 of last year.

Pentagon officials have maintained that China, among other things, had not reciprocated invitations to observe drills by its fighting forces. "They see front-line combat troops doing actual combat drills," said one official. "When we go to China, we get shown 'show units'."

Rodman "will seek to get a Chinese commitment to fix the problem," the official said.

Rodman leaves Washington on Saturday and will consult in Japan on Monday and in South Korea on Tuesday en route to meeting senior Chinese defence ministry officials in Beijing on Wednesday, Navy Lieutenant Commander Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said.

Rodman will be following up discussions Rumsfeld held at the Pentagon on May 1 with visiting Chinese Vice President Hu Jintao.

If Washington is satisfied with any new Chinese commitments , the Pentagon is "amenable" to resuming a regular dialogue known as defence consultative talks at which a series of military-to-military exchanges had been agreed on in the past, Davis said.

The last such dialogue took place in November 2000 in Beijing under President Bill Clinton's administration.

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said last month that Rodman would push for more understanding on both sides about what was expected from military swaps.

"We think that contacts between our two militaries can contribute to reducing misunderstanding and building a more secure Asia in the future," he told a May 31 briefing for foreign correspondents. "So we would like to move forward."


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Pentagon reviewing military contacts with China

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WASHINGTON (June 21, 2002 8:59 p.m. EDT) - A Pentagon official is expected to meet next week with Chinese defense officials in Beijing about renewing some military contacts between the United States and China, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Friday.

Peter Rodman, assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, will meet with Chinese officials Wednesday, Pentagon officials said. He will tell the Chinese that future military contacts must be more beneficial to the U.S. side, said Lt. Cmdr. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman.

The U.S.-Chinese contacts were severely curtailed not long after a Chinese fighter collided with a U.S. spy plane off the coast of China on April 1, 2001. The Chinese fighter crashed into the sea, killing the pilot. The 24-member crew of the American plane - which made an emergency landing on the Chinese island of Hainan - was detained for 11 days before being released.

Afterward, the Bush administration announced it no longer saw the contacts - which include academic conferences and exchanges - as beneficial.

A possible outcome of Rodman's visit would be the restarting of regular talks that provide for formal planning of the military contacts, Davis said.

On another front, U.S. and Chinese delegations on Friday concluded two days of talks on terrorism in Asia.

They agreed that "very encouraging progress has been made in the fight against terrorism and recognized that much remains to be done," said Richard Boucher, the State Department spokesman.

The United States offered to provide China with security experts and other assistance in preparation for the 2008 Olympics in Beijing.

1 posted on 06/22/2002 8:07:20 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: WakeUpChristian
As Bush referred to Iran, Iraq and North Korea as an "axis of evil," China remains the staunchest ally and the key supplier of military technologies of all three countries -- a fact that makes us to denounce China as the "core of the evil axis."
2 posted on 06/22/2002 8:17:19 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: WakeUpChristian
Defense Tech: Why the U.S. Must Share An international pact to develop the Joint Strike Fighter makes financial and diplomatic sense, but the Bush Administration remains wary
3 posted on 06/22/2002 8:19:33 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: WakeUpChristian
Here's a rather radical idea for our leaders to consider. No military information swaps what so ever. No invites to ships, observing troop operations, or even as much as a honor guard. This will be the nation we will eventually have to defeat for our survival. Why help them try to defeat us by giving away our strenghts and weaknesses? I say no exchanges not till the goverment of China is overthrown.
4 posted on 06/22/2002 8:41:06 PM PDT by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
What in the hell is Bush doing now? Inviting our enemy to come and review our defenses? China is saying "Thank God for the UN and ignorant Americans"
5 posted on 06/22/2002 8:47:19 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Red China providing training for Taliban and al-Qaeda troops China's military provided training for Afghanistan's Taliban militia and its al Qaeda supporters, according to a U.S. intelligence report.
7 posted on 06/22/2002 9:10:56 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: valg

8 posted on 06/22/2002 9:14:07 PM PDT by WakeUpChristian
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To: WakeUpChristian
Red China providing training for Taliban and al-Qaeda troops China's military provided training for Afghanistan's Taliban militia and its al Qaeda supporters, according to a U.S. intelligence report.

Okay, let me get this straight. The Bush Administration has helped lobby the WTO for China's addmission, China downs one of our survelience planes in international airspace and now we have the Washington Time's reporting that China has aided the Taliban and Al Queda. Is this administration's foreign policy f####d up or what?

What ever happened to "if you're not with us, you're against us"? Everyone said it was such a great speech back in September. Too bad it was a bunch of hot air.

9 posted on 06/22/2002 10:18:32 PM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: WakeUpChristian
I heard Mr. Chuck DeVore speak today. (He's still promoting his and co-author, Steven Mosher book, "China Attacks").
He says China is buying arms from Russia. I wonder if the Paki's are buying the old stuff from China, with our money? Perhaps, the Russians don't want to be 'included' in the military contacts between Beijing and USA. So much we don't know, even tho Gertz does his best! It's not a game, but President Bush must feel like his desk is one big chess board. I wish him well.
10 posted on 06/22/2002 10:49:13 PM PDT by seenenuf
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11 posted on 06/22/2002 10:50:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
LOL
12 posted on 06/23/2002 9:34:30 AM PDT by servantoftheservant
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To: belmont_mark
YOu'll like this one. I did not know China had its own club of super activist trade worshipers in the Bush admin. Peace of men is at hand, for death and destruction.
14 posted on 06/23/2002 11:16:09 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: servantoftheservant; jbind
Thanks folks. Glad you enjoyed it.
15 posted on 06/23/2002 11:20:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: WakeUpChristian
As Bush referred to Iran, Iraq and North Korea as an "axis of evil," China remains the staunchest ally and the key supplier of military technologies of all three countries -- a fact that makes us to denounce China as the "core of the evil axis."

True,but Bubba-2 ain't really going to do anything that would hurt China. His uncle Prescott is in bed with the Chinese leaders,and wouldn't allow it.

16 posted on 06/23/2002 11:43:34 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: B4Ranch
What in the hell is Bush doing now?

His uncle Prescott is the head of the "Chinese/American Chamber of Commerce". You don't want the Bush family to lose money or political power,do you?

17 posted on 06/23/2002 11:45:41 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Kobyashi1942
Okay, let me get this straight. The Bush Administration has helped lobby the WTO for China's addmission, China downs one of our survelience planes in international airspace and now we have the Washington Time's reporting that China has aided the Taliban and Al Queda. Is this administration's foreign policy f####d up or what?

It's worse than that. Bubba-2 granted China PERMANENT "Most Favored Nation" trade status. Before,presidents only granted them temporary status,and this was used as a tool to help keep them in line. This is no longer possible,thanks to Bubba-2

What ever happened to "if you're not with us, you're against us"? Everyone said it was such a great speech back in September.

It doesn't apply when it might cut into the Bush family profits or influence.

18 posted on 06/23/2002 11:48:55 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
Maybe some Americans should apply for citizenship in The People Republic of China before their American co-citizens hang them by the neck under dead.
19 posted on 06/23/2002 1:25:07 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: lavaroise
Perhaps you missed the long term involvement of Prescott Bush in promoting China trade?
20 posted on 06/24/2002 5:37:46 AM PDT by flamefront
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