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To: Dominic Harr
No, there isn't any evidence that you're willing to believe. Because you don't believe anything good about MS. I see a list of dozens of places using it and I dont write them off as "MS partners being paid to lie". I've worked for MS partners they didn't pay us for anything, your "payment" for being an MS partner is you get the goods first, we were working with Exchange for almost a year before the first beta came out. That's what you get for being a partner, the ability to ship your add-on or whatever at the exact same time as the MS product you're working with because you developed in parallel. This really sucked when they'd rewrite MAPI from the ground up on us, that's why we called it the bleeding edge. You even accused Jeeves of being paid to say he used .Net, until you decided he lied in his time frame.

Would you for once in your life actually listen to someone. I'm an MS only person. You insult me. Not because you use Java, how much I care what language you use and 2 bucks will buy a cup of coffee (hey I just realized that's a pun in this case). You insult me because you say stupid things and make rediculous blanket statements that have no grounding in fact, and you insult me by creative misquoting, word twisting, and outright ignoring things that violate your preconceptions. It's insulting that you pretend you want information but you turn all information away and then act hurt when everybody gets sick of your crap. It's insulting that you tell people what they think, shave time off their estimates and just generally wander through these threads like you're the latest Stroustrop and we should all kiss your butt.

Hah, then you go so far as to lie. I've been on enough Mac threads to know that those guys let NO hit on their baby go unpunished. You can't even slam System 7 (IMHO the single worst GUI OS ever, and the one that made me forever a Macbasher, I used to defend them but I'll never forgive Apple for releasing 7 and making me a liar) without them screaching that it was better than any version of Windows (which anyone that's ever printed a 40 page document under System 7 knows that chissel and tablet would be prefered). So no, i ain't buyin' that.
203 posted on 06/26/2002 10:16:42 AM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
I've been on enough Mac threads to know that those guys let NO hit on their baby go unpunished.

On those threads, MS-only folks outright insult and flame the Mac users from their first post.

As you've said, when you have trouble with the whole world, maybe you're the problem.

I, and most people, have no problem discussing with fans of Mac and Linux and Unix and Java and the rest.

Yet you MS-only folks have *tons* of trouble with fans of Mac and Linux and Unix and Java and the rest. Every thread you participate in burns to the ground in a flame fest, almost always started by an MS-only person. Ya'll directly insult, call names of the lowest sort, act like children -- and then take offense at the slightest negative comments from the other side.

Again, I seem to have no problems with anyone else. You guys have the exact same problems you have with me with everyone else.

Consider it.

Heck, one of the funniest things -- ya'll like to call me an Sun 'shill', but I'm loud about saying I think Sun boxen are overpriced and don't deliver on the bang-for-the-buck. I don't like Solaris at all, and refuse to use it, it's too labrynthine.

The common thread here, then, is the MS-only crowd. Ya'll have issues to deal with.

204 posted on 06/26/2002 10:26:51 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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