You gotta drop the conspiratorial thinking. Unless somebody says they're an MS salesman there's no reason to assume otherwise. Assuming the MS sales department hasn't changed much from when I met some in 96 I doubt they could keep up with our conversations anyway, very non-technical people.
As for any duping, it's 2002, most of us who use MS software never had it sold to us, it was just there and that's what we use. We went to school and the teacher prefered MS stuff, we got a job in a MS shop and that's the end of the discussion. We can't have been duped by the salesmen, we never met one.
You insult us because when you say MS dupes the consumer you're saying they duped us. When you tell Jeeves that MS sold his company the wrong solution you're telling him that decisions he might have been involved in were wrong. You insult our integrity, knowledge and professionalism. I'm not suprised that you don't see it, I don't think it's intentional, but you do it. In almost every one of your posts you insult every one of us that works in a MS shop.
You weren't saying nice things about .Net. The best you could muster was saying it would be good someday but wasn't ready for primetime, which insults everyone that has sent or is sendinga .Net app out into production. That's not nice things, that's at best gaurded endorsement, but still with a little zinger in there to irritate people.
Assuming the MS sales department hasn't changed much from when I met some in 96 I doubt they could keep up with our conversations anyway, very non-technical people. That's what first convinced me I was talking to sales people here.
I have said nice things about .NET. It's the best web solution yet from MS. ASP.NET is a major leap forward for ASP, fully OO and all. It's definitely an upgrade for any MS-only shop.
As I have said repeatedly.
And of course I said it's not ready for prime time. That is what an *honest* assessment of .NET gives you. It's ready for small tools, small work, and assuming it does well in that area for a year or so it'll start to be taken more seriously for big work.
But to say that a brand-new, untested tech is ready to run mission-critical apps when you haven't seen a single example -- as certain folks here are doing -- is Salesmen-speak. An attempt to dupe.
It is *not* an insult to suggest that there may be better solutions out there. I can't imagine a developer saying that. I can't imagine someone coming to me and saying, "y'know, if you wrote that servlet as a C# web service, it would perform faster", and being insulted.
If someone were a Ford fan, I can't imagine them being insulted at someone saying Toyota's hold their value better, or Porsches have faster engines.
It's something very unique to the MS-only crowd. You view any suggestion that MS isn't the very best thing in the world as an insult.
That's a large part of why every single tech thread here on FR becomes an MS-only flame fest.