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Ah, that's right, you think I'm not pro-.NET enough.

Those of us familiar with your MO know how you operate. You say a few tepid words about .NET and ... when the dust settles, you turn around and make unsubstantiated claims that it's "at least two years away from being useful." Naturally, when pressed for proof, you don't have the cajônes. There's really no point in debating this issue. You've done it so repeatedly that it's de rigeur.

You say a few tepid words about .NET and ... when the dust settles, you turn around and make unsubstantiated claims that it's "at least two years away from being useful.

Right, I diverge from your script by admitting that there is both good and bad about .NET. The bad is never to be admitted to, it shows signs of independent thought.

Remeber the thread Has anyone been involved in a large .net installation? recently?

Remember how it turned out that no one had completed any major implementations?

Not one. 3 or 4 cheerleaders who said it was 'way cool', but no actual success stories. "Look at the MS press releases" was the answer. In fact, rather than discuss .NET it became a thread largely dedicated to personal insults? That thread alone said more about .NET than I ever could.

But I believe .NET will get to where java is today, in 3 or 4 years.

Clearly, tho, it isn't there yet. Heck, as of this moment, the fact that .NET requires IIS is a deal-breaker for almost all serious work.

Those of us familiar with your MO know how you operate.

Yeppers. He's a Java bigot. He thinks anyone who uses anything else is ignorant. I'm sure he'd love for Ralph Nader and the other leftist commies at Sun to be able to force the government to regulate (dictate) what you run on your desktop. He also criticizes operating systems he's never even used. This is the same moron who called IBM's MVS and Digital's VMS operating systems unstable. Apparently even Linux wizards Alan Cox and Linus Torvalds acknowledge those OS's superior to Linux. Check your stock prices... IBM and Microsoft are doing very nicely thank you. Sun?...well it's doubtful they will survive the next 5 years. Finally Sun just blew it with the JDK 1.4 release big time. They crippled the Windows sockets/NIO implementation and blamed it on MS. Probably intentionally as they don't intend on fixing it for 6 months. Now they just shot themselves in the foot as that gives those writing high performance servers more reason to flush Sun. Can't play with the big boys in big leagues at all. However, I do predict that IBM will probably at some point end up owning this franchise run by pimply faced kids, and make something out of it. At that point Microsoft may well get back into the Java ring since they won't have to negotiate with retards.