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To: Dominic Harr
Yet you MS folks somehow knew he *didn't* mean what he said. He *didn't* take 8 weeks to code and test it in ASP. He only took on week. I'm guessing it was an honest mis-statement, and he didn't mean to deliberately defraud. He was just jumping in here, offering his opinion, and the words didn't quite come out right. He's explained what he meant now -- total actual coding time 1 week.

I will let you slide on this one because it looks like he did incorporate gathering user requirements and designing the project into the 8 week figure. But, honestly, Harr ... in the future, I'd be careful about throwing around remarks about how long you think it would take you to code his project in Java versus anything else because you don't even know the parameters. Java may be better for that particular application -- but maybe not. I'm only asking you for a little realism and honesty.
113 posted on 06/25/2002 8:54:20 AM PDT by Bush2000
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To: Bush2000
I will let you slide on this one

You'll "let me slide" when I was right . . .

Well, that's the closest you've ever gotten to honesty, so I'll take it.

Seriously, if you just wish to flame folks, can't you find another thread? We were trying to discuss .NET here.

I've specifically said .NET is good. It's starting to look like it is a requirement of a .NET thread to never mention Java or any non-MS technologies. Apparently the .NET salesmen can't take an open tech discussion.

It's the wierdest thing.

I bought my wife one of those brand new Hyundai Santa Fe's over Christmas. When talking to the salesman, I brought up things like "the Toyota seems to hold it's value better" and "the chevy gets better milage".

He didn't once get angry.

That's an interesting paralell for another reason -- one of my concerns about the Santa Fe was that it is a brand new line, with no track record (much like .NET).

The salesman was understanding when I said that worried me, and he explained how they were worried about that problem too, so he offered me the extended warranty (10 year, 10,000 miles) for a discount.

He made the sale.

*That* is how I expect MS salesmen to act. Don't attack/insult/flame anyone who suggests that there are other good solutions out there. That kind of high pressure tactics does not work with savy consumers. And you have to have the savy developers, if you want .NET to succeed.

115 posted on 06/25/2002 9:18:07 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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