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St. Louis Cardinal pitcher Darryl Kile dead.
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Posted on 06/22/2002 12:39:36 PM PDT by dennis1x

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:33:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

As a Cardinal fan this has been an awful week.


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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
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As I've been thinking about it this afternoon, I think they took him off the court. I don't believe they announced until later that it was "sudden death".

201 posted on 06/22/2002 3:27:41 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: LisaAnne
They man died, I am sorry for that.

Doesn't look or sound like it.

202 posted on 06/22/2002 3:28:36 PM PDT by mhking
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Reggie Lewis, for the Boston Celtics, died of a heart condition as well, but I believe that was during a practice session.

Then there was Len Bias, drafted by the Celtics, who died of a drug OD.

203 posted on 06/22/2002 3:29:18 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: mhking
I had never even heard of him before today. Perhaps I should take the remainder of the week off to mourn for him.
204 posted on 06/22/2002 3:29:47 PM PDT by LisaAnne
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To: connectthedots
Then there was Len Bias, drafted by the Celtics, who died of a drug OD.

Bias never suited up - he died the night after the draft in College Pk, MD.

205 posted on 06/22/2002 3:30:28 PM PDT by mhking
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To: don-o
Why not just post stupid once, get it out of your system, then move on to something else?

You know, that is what I would have done, posted my opinion and moved on, but I got a flood of personal invective in return. I showed me that you were a cluster of semi literates, that in Christian charity, I should try to educate

So9

206 posted on 06/22/2002 3:30:44 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: NYCVirago
I'm not familiar with that story. Perhaps someone else on the board knows the answer to that.

Someone remembered in #114 ... Hank Gathers. I responded in a very garbled #201. :)

207 posted on 06/22/2002 3:31:27 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: dennis1x
From a brain-surgery.com:

The Aneurysm

The brain is interesting for many reasons. Of prime importance, the brain uses, pound for pound, more energy than any other part of the body. It must be guaranteed just the right amount of blood for every instant of its life in order to survive and function well. Of all of the blood that the heart pumps, the brain needs the most. It weighs about 5% of the body's total weight, yet it demands and monopolizes about 20% of the volume the heart puts out. The blood vessels at the base of the brain (these are the largest, and "smartest" of all vessels) have the capability to control -- even commandeer -- blood to supply the brain as conditions demand.

When we lie down, these vessels constrict automatically to prevent the brain from being flooded with an over supply. And, when we jump up, these vessels have the James Bond-like buttons built in, to make sure that the heart not only pumps harder, but also that the other blood vessels open up enough to handle the increased volume required by the brain. Thus, these blood vessels have three things that are needed for survival:

Elasticity that allows them to keep their shape (like socks)
"Smooth muscle," that can be relaxed or tightened as conditions require
An electronic feedback system (i.e. sensors and nerves) that makes everything work.
People who grow aneurysms have an inborn problem with the elasticity part of these blood vessels. The elastic layer is not formed properly (being randomly, rather than regularly organized). This weaker part of the blood vessel begins to bulge and balloon over the years. It is this bulge which is actually called the "aneurysm."

It develops in places where the pressure is greatest -- usually where the vessels divide into multiple routes. It enlarges and enlarges, and enlarges further still. Eventually, its chance of "popping" like an over inflated balloon becomes real. When the local blood pressure exceeds the strength of that vessel's weak point, the danger of rupture is at hand.

In these people, over the years of their lifetimes, and at the points along these vessels where the defect in the elastic layer exists, a gradual bulge and finally a balloon develops in places where the pressure is greatest (usually where the vessels divide). Over time, the result is a little (and ever-enlarging) balloon called an "aneurysm." And, as for all balloons, the chance of "popping" becomes real when the local blood pressure exceeds the strength of the balloon's wall at its weakest point.

When they do pop, a surprisingly small amount of blood escapes, due to the efficiency of the blood's clotting system. It's difficult to imagine, but only 5 to 10 cc's of blood could be responsible for causing such disastrous consequences! In those people whose aneurysms bleed much more, death occurs even before they get arrive at the hospital.

"Brain Attack" 1/3rd of people with ruptured aneuryms die before they get to the hospital.

1/3rd die after they get to the hospital.

1/3rd survive after they get to the hospital. Of these, 40% end up with neurological problems that make life difficult.

208 posted on 06/22/2002 3:31:54 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Servant of the Nine
that in Christian charity, I should try to educate

You got religion? When? Where? How??????

209 posted on 06/22/2002 3:33:47 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Servant of the Nine
I showed me that you were a cluster of semi literates, that in Christian charity, I should try to educate

I hope you know that this is really a ludicrous response. You may well have been wrong ... but certainly popular opinion supports a mourning period.

210 posted on 06/22/2002 3:34:03 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: LisaAnne
Perhaps I should take the remainder of the week off to mourn for him.

Perhaps you should be respectful to those who choose to pay their respects, as opposed to flapping your gums with useless insults. But it's obvious from your prior posts, that you are oblivious to that. You don't like the sport, that's your business. This is the wrong place and time to go off on some kind of hard-nosed track to jump on the game and the people.

I think Martha Stewart is on...maybe you should change the channel.

211 posted on 06/22/2002 3:34:46 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Servant of the Nine
I should try to educate

I think you might find trouble teaching a four year-old how to tie their shoelaces, let alone rationally particpate here.

212 posted on 06/22/2002 3:38:26 PM PDT by mhking
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To: null and void
"You got religion? When? Where? How??????"

It's a miracle!

213 posted on 06/22/2002 3:38:30 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
LOL!!!
214 posted on 06/22/2002 3:39:59 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Howlin; SelmaLee; Pharmboy; big'ol_freeper; mhking; lonestar
Thank you all.

I know I am not that only Cardinal or baseball fan here on FR.

It was sad when Jack Buck died on Tuesday night but not unexpected...this was totally a shock.

I was IM'ing with my aunt about the delay , wondering what it could be, I even mentioned it could be someone had died, but never would I think it might be one of the players.

I had restarted my computer and she sent me an IM right away saying Fox announced Darryl Kile was found dead...I burst into tears.

To some he was just a ballplayer, but I consider the Cardinals as my extended family in a way.

You don't listen and watch every game without getting to know a part of a players life, even if it is such a small part. Heck I know more about some of the players than of my own family members.

There is no way these guy would have been able to play today. Maybe Sunday night they will be ready but not right after learning that not only has a teammate died but a friend.

215 posted on 06/22/2002 3:42:53 PM PDT by CARDINALRULES
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To: LisaAnne
But, I don't think that the game should have been cancelled and everyone go home to cry in their beer.

You're a bigger man than I am, though you are a woman. I'm not worthy. If we lived in the Matrix, I'd agree with you. I'd commit suicide before living in a world of people who believed as you do. Indeed, in 1992 I almost succeeded in such an attempt because I believed I did live in such a world. Sometimes I still do feel that way. We're not worker drones serving a queen. We're free citizens. We have feelings. Being conservative does not mean being stoic. Some would argue with that. It doesn't mean we're closet liberals.

Feelings don't belong in certain venues, like in 'objective' news stories, or in rationalizing welfare, affirmative action, etc. But they do belong in a little concept I like to call humanity. I've known men with no feelings. My grandfather was one. He was a bona fide sociopath. And quite proud of his neo-Luddite lifestyle, and proud to feel superior to everyone else. He wouldn't have recognized a true human emotion if you made him watch Oprah 24/7 for 80 years.

I guess I should turn in my membership in the Superman club. I've missed work for grieving. Some times I asked to stay home, and a few times my manager sent me home even though I had fought through the grief to go to work.

No, it shouldn't be legislated that when a 'famous' person dies, people should be given the day off. But I have more respect for those who, irrespective of public pressure, tell their employees if they need to go, go, productivity be damned. Businesses are, after all, run by human beings, though there are several you could make a case for being machines (don't want to start a flame war on THAT topic).

216 posted on 06/22/2002 3:47:32 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: CARDINALRULES
All baseball fans feel for the Cards and their fans. I had heard that Kile's dad died young from a brain hemorrhage, that's why I posted the explanation above.

The first time I was ever in St. Louis was about 15 years ago. It was business (with the 7-Up company) and we stayed downtown in a hotel next door to the stadium. It was great being able to see the outfield from my hotel room.

That night we walked around the stadium and I was so impressed to see a statue of Stan Musial. St Louis is a great baseball town and your loss is all of ours.
217 posted on 06/22/2002 3:48:22 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What a shock. I remember early in his career with the Astros he struck out the first eight batters. Tommy Lasorda had the pitcher bunt so he wouldn't get nine in a row.

Prayers to his family.

218 posted on 06/22/2002 3:54:32 PM PDT by centexan
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To: LisaAnne
... acting like Alan Alda look alikes. You are all acting just like the masses when that silly Princess Dianna died. Grow up.

Look. I think you're trying to out-tough the guys here. I'm a thinking woman, too, and I get weary of some of the "mushiness" in popular culture. But it's not sappy or unmanly for the other players to mourn a teammate's death.

219 posted on 06/22/2002 4:01:17 PM PDT by bleudevil
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To: LisaAnne
These weren't the masses...they are men that this man practically lived with for months at a time. These are men who had a close bond with him. Would you take a couple of days off if a loved one died? Do you think you could give 110% while mourning the fresh loss of a loved one?
220 posted on 06/22/2002 4:01:59 PM PDT by constitutiongirl
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