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It's Here...The Federal ID card
The Idaho Observer ^ | 6/21/02 | Hari Heath

Posted on 06/21/2002 2:42:31 PM PDT by freeeee

It's Here...The Federal ID card

By Hari Heath

Right now the U.S. House of Representatives is debating in committee what could be the single most federal power expanding bill in American history -- HR 4633, the "Driver's License Modernization Act of 2002."

Since its passage last October during the post-Sept. 11 hysteria, many Americans thought the more ominously Orwellian "Provide Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism (PATRIOT) Act" was intended to bring about the federally-enforced police state. However, if you read the PATRIOT Act while comparing it with existing U.S. Code, it was mostly a housecleaning bill (The Idaho Observer, October, 2001).

The act provided a few new powers, but mostly it was just minor changes to the code. The government had already given itself enormous powers well beyond its constitutional limits; the PATRIOT Act was a sheep dressed up in wolf's clothing to scare us with its ominous name. HR 4633, on the other hand, is a rather large, rabid wolf in the sheep's clothing of a deceptively benign name.

Congress is currently debating House Resolution 4633 -- the "Driver's License Modernization Act of 2002." This rather mundane-sounding bill isn't nearly as scary sounding as the PATRIOT Act and is only intended, "To amend title 23, United States Code, to establish standards for State programs for the issuance of drivers' licenses and identification cards, and for other purposes."

At least they were honest right up front with the "and for other purposes" part. The Devil is in the details, details which are anything but mundane. Let's see what those devils in Congress are up to.

"Congress finds the following:

(1) The terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, illuminated many flaws in the Nation's domestic security, especially in its identification system.

(2) Drivers' licenses and identification cards issued by States have become the favored form of identity verification in the United States and are used by government agencies and private entities alike.

(3) Inconsistent requirements between the States for initial identity verification and insufficient verification of identity documents have made the identification systems of States a prime target for fraud and identity theft.

(4) Different designs on drivers' licenses and identification cards issued by States have created a market, including sales on the Internet, for fake cards that look real to those who are unfamiliar with the official designs.

(5) Improving the security of State identification systems will require taking advantage of new technology.

(6) Identification card technologies that can accommodate other government and private applications will provide the best return on the investment in the new cards.

(7) It is necessary to improve the security of drivers' licenses and identification cards issued by States so that multiple licensing of individuals will be eliminated, the purchase of alcohol and tobacco products by underage individuals will be reduced, and identity theft will be severely reduced."

Read that as Congress using the events of 9-11 to have the State driver's license become the "favored form of identity verification" which will become federalized with this Bill because of "inconsistent requirements" and "insufficient verification" which results in too many "fake cards that look real." Improving security "will require" new "technologies that can accommodate other government and private applications" and "will provide the best return on the investment."

"Investment?" When has Congress ever figured out what a good "investment" is? Doesn't that make you feel like government-owned cattle, soon to be tagged with the latest in hi-tech pasture wear decorations?

This is the perfect Hegelian bureaucratic agenda of problem; reaction; solution. Remember the part in the beginning about "and for other purposes?" It only gets worse from here. "Not later than five years after the date of enactment of this section, each State shall have in effect a driver's license and identification card program under which the State meets the following requirements:"

Computer Chips in Driver's Licenses and ID Cards?

This Bill requires that "a State shall embed a computer chip in each new or renewed driver's license or identification card issued by the State." It further demands that "a computer chip embedded in a driver's license or identification card... shall: contain, in electronic form, all text data written on the license or card; encoded biometric data matching the holder of the license or card; encryption and security software or hardware (or both) that prevents access to data stored on the chip without the express consent of the individual to whom the data applies, other than access by a Federal, State, or local agency (including a court or law enforcement agency) in carrying out its functions, or by a private entity acting on behalf of a Federal, State, or local agency in carrying out its functions; accept data or software written to the license or card by non-governmental devices if the data transfer is authorized by the holder of the license or card; and conform to any other standards issued by Secretary."

No, I am not making any of this up. It's straight from the Bill itself. The Feds want to put a chip in your State driver's license with your biometric data encoded and accessible by any "agency" (not just law enforcement) or an unspecified "private entity." As government becomes more of a corporation and corporations become our government, isn't this simply authorization of the status quo?

This chip will be programmable by "non-governmental devices." What the hell are those? And it will "conform to any other standards issued by the Secretary." Since when was the Secretary of Transportation authorized to violate the Tenth Amendment (and a few others), take control of a State's control of its highways and be empowered to issue "any other standards?" What standards could those be? Just wait till you read about the "Innovative Uses Pilot Program."

First the chip is only in the license that you carry. Remember, the silent coup of administrative tyranny relies on gradualism and societal conditioning. Once this is accepted by the population it can be installed somewhere where it won't get lost or tampered with, like under your skin.

Biometric Data?

"A State shall obtain biometric data for the identification of each individual to whom the State issues a new or renewed driver's license or identification card and shall maintain such data." Just what kind of biometric data "shall" the state obtain? "Biometric data obtained by a State under this paragraph shall be of a type that can be matched to the license or card holder only with the express cooperation of the license or card holder."

And how are we to "express our cooperation" with a state which "shall" obtain our biometric data? By "expressing" our blood for a DNA sample? Will we "cooperate" by having our vision checked and getting our retinas scanned all at the same time? Unknowingly?

When will height, weight, hair and eye color be replaced by "any other standards issued by the Secretary?" This Bill gives unlimited power to an unelected, unaccountable administrator. What standard does this set?

A National/State Database?

"A State shall participate in a program to link State motor vehicle databases in order to provide electronic access by a State to information contained in the motor vehicle databases of all other States." And once this is complete will the Border Patrol have access to all of your "data?"

The Border Patrol, already in control of a massive people tracking database, is proposed to become a sub agency under the new Homeland Defense Czar. Is our new Czar Tom Ridge part of the "Shadow Government?" Only the shadow knows. From there your data can be kept in Interpol's files in Brussels Belgium -- where the NSA can "legally" spy on you.

Can you spell NWO yet? Or UN? Will the Non Governmental Organizations (NGOs) at the UN be the "private entity acting on behalf of a Federal, State, or local agency in carrying out its functions" that have access to your data? It's hard to tell government from its shadows anymore.

"A State motor vehicle database shall contain, at a minimum... All data fields printed on drivers' licenses and identification cards issued by the State... Biometric data obtained... from each individual to whom the State issues a new or renewed driver's license or identification card." Also "motor vehicle drivers' histories, including motor vehicle violations, suspensions, and points on licenses" will be kept in this new national/state database. "At a minimum?" Are there any limits to what such a database will contain?

Documentation?

"A State shall adopt and implement procedures for accurately documenting the identity and residence of an individual before issuing a driver's license or identification card to the individual." By now, rural Idahoans have been "given" their FEMA numbers to identify their ?residence.? These Rural Identification Numbers or RINs were mandated on our county governments if they were to receive FEMA flood insurance and other federal handouts. Now rural Idahoans can't vote without a FEMA number (RIN).

The Shadow Government appears to be in a hurry to complete their little paint the citizenry by numbers scheme: "Not later than 6 months after the date of enactment of this section, the Secretary shall issue guidelines to assist States in complying with the requirements ..." Remember, soon FEMA will also be an agency under the umbrella of the Homeland Defense Czar.

More Standards?

"The guidelines issued under this subsection shall contain, at a minimum, the following:

Standards for the computer chip technology required for compliance..."

"Standards to ensure interoperability and the ability to store multiple applications created by government agencies and private entities and transmitted to the license or card with the express consent of the license or card holder..."

"Standards for the encoded biometric data that must be contained on each computer chip and requirements to ensure that such biometric data will be used only for matching the license or card to the presenter and will not be stored in a central database."

When I was first tricked into getting a Social Security card years ago, it said "not to be used for identification purposes." Now it is THE identifying number. Who would actually believe they won't store our biometric data in a central database once they have it? And how will we ever know if they do? When it's too late to get it back?

"Standards for linking State motor vehicle databases..."

"Standards for security features or optical image layers to be placed on State drivers' licenses and identification cards..."

"Standards for documentation of the identity and residence of an individual ... including a list of acceptable documents for establishing the identity and residence of an individual and procedures for verifying the authenticity of the documents."

"Standards for a numbering system for State drivers' licenses and identification cards that prevents duplication between States and does not make use of the license or card holder's Social Security number."

Are they going to going to give us new federal citizen ID numbers with this bill? Have they finally recognized it's a felony under federal law to compel the disclosure of the SSN (42 USC 408(a)(8))? Welcome to the Shadow Government and your new FEMA citizen number.

Privacy?

"The Secretary may issue guidelines under this subsection without regard to subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5" -- the Privacy Act. Will Congress vote to violate our privacy with this end run around the Privacy Act?

Federal Handouts?

"The Secretary may make grants to each State to assist the State in developing and implementing a driver's license and identification card program that meet the requirements ... [and] in developing and implementing computer technologies and databases required to link State motor vehicle databases ..."

This Bill also authorizes some sizable appropriations. $100,000,000 for making grants to develop and implement the driver's license and ID card programs and $200,000,000 for making grants to develop and implement computer technologies and databases. An additional $15,000,000 is to be appropriated for the "Innovative Uses Pilot Program." That's $315 million in giveaways so the states can put a chip in everyone's pocket or purse.

A Federal/State agency?

"A State carrying out activities using amounts from a grant under this section shall be treated as an executive agency and part of the Department of Transportation when carrying out such activities. For purposes of carrying out such activities, the Secretary shall, at the request of a State, enter into an agreement for the acquisition, on behalf of the State, of any goods, services, or supplies available to the Secretary from the General Services Administration, including acquisitions from prime venders..." Can Congress really make state agencies part of the federal government? I didn't see that power expressed in the Constitution, did you?

Repayment -- Federal strings

"The Secretary shall require a State that receives a grant under this subsection to submit to the Secretary, not later than 1 year after the date of implementation of the activities funded using the amounts of the grant, a report on the results of the activities."

"If the Secretary determines that a State receiving a grant under this subsection has not met the requirements ... on or before the last day of the 5-year period beginning on the date of enactment of this section, the Secretary may require the State to repay, in whole or in part, the total amount received by the State in grants under this subsection."

Forgery or false use of a Driver's License or ID Card

Of course, what good would this bill be if Congress couldn't put a few more crimes on the books and fill up more prisons? No small potatoes here either, for Gulag Amerika. Title 18, United States Code, the "criminal" code will be amended with a new chapter 125.

"Whoever --

(1) falsely makes, forges, counterfeits, mutilates, or alters any driver's license or identification card or instrument purporting to be a driver's license or identification card, with intent that the license or card may be used,

(2) except by lawful authority, makes a template or similar device from which there may be printed a counterfeit driver's license or identification card,

(3) obtains or assists in obtaining a driver's license or identification card through willful misrepresentation of identity, presentation of falsified identity documents such as birth certificates or passports, or other fraudulent representation,

(4) tampers with, alters, or destroys a computer chip embedded in a driver's license or identification card or data contained on the computer chip, or

(5) except by lawful authority, accesses data contained on a computer chip embedded in a driver's license or identification card, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both."

20 years in the klink over a driver's license? What if a few years in the wallet "mutilates" it? Will it be your fault if the chip fails to work? 20 years in prison for trying to find out what the government or a "private entity" put in the chipped card you must carry before traveling on the public highways?

How many people simply won't be able to document themselves under the Secretary's new "standards?" How many people will refuse to comply once they find out what's in this new citizen tracking device? Worse yet, how many compliant citizens will think all this is a good idea?

Driving without a license in Idaho, under the current unconstitutional and illegitimate state statute is only a misdemeanor with up to a six month jail sentence. Will you prefer to risk 6 months for driving without a license or 20 years in a federal penitentiary for driving with one that may have been "altered" by a stray magnet? Think how many unwanted problem citizens can be swept off the streets and into the camps because their "papers" won't compute. It could be a field day at the terrorism roadblocks for any government agent with a magnet.

"Innovative Uses Pilot Program"

This Bill also seeks to encourage the development of many "innovative uses" for these new programmable federal ID cards. This is only the "Pilot Program."

"The National Science Foundation may make grants to States for the implementation of programs that utilize computer chips embedded in drivers' licenses and identification cards... for innovative uses that enhance government services."

"The innovative uses... may include the issuance of food stamps, voter registration, and other digital government applications that streamline and simplify State services to residents, including uses authorized under the Electronic Signatures in Global and National Commerce Act (15 U.S.C. 7001 et seq.)."

Here it comes. The card to end all cards. As government and "private entities" find more "innovative uses" for this technology its utility will increase. Watch for more public/private partnerships to swell up around the card. Oracle has already offered the government free use of its software. Such benevolence will no doubt be repaid many times over, once the system is up and running.

Our Questionable Future under the National ID card

What if a State doesn't want to conform to this Bill? Will the state be arrested? What about the 10th Amendment Resolution the Idaho Legislature passed some years ago? Will Idaho stand up for States rights or grab onto this federal handout, trading our liberties for its revenue?

Are the new numbering "standards" meant to replace the current SSN citizen tracking system? Will Social Security be phased out after we are all given new numeric identifiers -- and the Ponzie scheme of Social Security collapses?

Can the new chipped license be tracked via satellite? With the new FEMA numbered and chipped license in your pocket will your location be displayed at all times to any of thousands of agencies and thousands more "private entities?"

Are the stepping stones being laid for a chip implanted, satellite tracked citizenry? Will this be the line that Americans finally refuse to cross? Will people wake up and refuse to consent by contract with an unconstitutional administrative regime?

The history of the driver's license is an interesting study in administrative gradualism, societal conditioning and the slow rush to power. A rush to power that is about to take a giant leap forward.

It began as a municipal tax on truckers and taxis who used public roads for profit almost a century ago. By fraud and usurpation of the people's right to travel, the states extended the regulation of commerce to the unconstitutional "licensing" of private travel. This is a dirty little secret that modern day courts punish people for exposing.

Most people have been conditioned to accept the belief that a driver's license is both a legal requirement and necessary. Even after much effort, I have yet to find anyone in government who can explain how it is constitutionally authorized.

This gradually layered fraud is now being advanced as a national citizen control card. Not only does this nationalize the State driver's license, but also the state issued ID card. Since it will soon be used for many other "innovative uses," will we be required to get either the license or the ID card and carry it at all times? Must we have a walking down the street license in the land of the free?

This is not Sci-Fi or the ravings of a paranoid delusionist. This is our Congress. The mark of the beast is here. And the beast is clearly our shadowy government.

Control of people through control of their movements.

They are attempting, under the guise of protecting us from terrorism, to get us to rivet the chains on the necks of our fellow sufferers. Or rather, rivet a chain on your own neck whenever you apply for or renew a driver's license or ID card.

How much will you surrender for the false promise of security? Where is your line in the sand? Will you "just say no" to the anti-government -- the beast lurking in the shadows? Or will you submit to another layer of administrative treason? It's here... and coming soon to a Federal ID card near you!

The Idaho Observer
P.O. Box 457
Spirit Lake, Idaho 83869
Phone: 208-255-2307
Email: observer@coldreams.com
Web: http://proliberty.com/observer/


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: biometrics; driverslicense; libertarians; nationalid; unita; vcrlist
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To: freeeee
I may not get this one, but what freedoms to we give up by this?????? Can someone please let me know?
121 posted on 06/21/2002 9:19:23 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: B.R. Burton
The whole thing with poor people starving or going without medical care without government help is BS. I mean doesn't everyone have friends and family who will help out in a desperate situation( and if you don't you are probably such an ahole you don't deserve to live).
122 posted on 06/21/2002 9:19:56 PM PDT by weikel
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To: luckystarmom
Read the thread it could lead to a more efficient form of the telescreen from 1984 basically.
123 posted on 06/21/2002 9:26:23 PM PDT by weikel
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To: freeeee
Smash the chip ("accidentally") with a hammer if this is enacted.

Show Washington liberals that conservatives learned the Rosa Parks lesson!

124 posted on 06/21/2002 9:29:57 PM PDT by glc1173@aol.com
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To: Sabertooth
The inmates are officially running the asylum.

"Smoke 'em if you got 'em"

Note to self-much more @mmo required.

On a personal note:I was involved in a rear collision accident(I was the innocent one hit).I was almost arrested because the drivers licence NUMBER printed on my "tamper proof" card contained a clerical error and showed up as non-existant on the "state computer system".

Technology, absent common sence, is futile.

125 posted on 06/21/2002 9:32:41 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: weikel
lol. Thanks for that. I believe that logic and believing in the Bible are not opposing forces, but totally congruent. Science and the Bible, contrary to popular belief, are not contradictory, but parallel. This misunderstanding comes from lack of understanding on BOTH sides of the isle, from the Christian community and the scientific community, most notably, on the issue of evolution vs creation. I believe the mainstream positions on both sides of this issue are wrong. My position on it is complicated, but when I first saw the solution, I was shocked. I didn't come up with it, a Jewish physicist AND Torah scholar name Gerald Schroeder did.
126 posted on 06/21/2002 9:41:33 PM PDT by B.R. Burton
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To: B.R. Burton
Cool. I gotta ask since you seem to be an intelligent and reasonable christian how can god be loving and send everyone who doesn't accept Christ to eternal hell( Im only interested in BR's answers). Or is this another misunderstanding? Not all non christians are bad people after all.
127 posted on 06/21/2002 9:44:25 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
Yes, and there should be PRIVATE CHARITIES, etc., to solve legitimate concerns about lack of health care, in my opinion. Solve the problem through charities and private organizations, NOT GUBMINT
128 posted on 06/21/2002 9:46:12 PM PDT by B.R. Burton
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To: B.R. Burton
After seeing others link the drivers license act to digital angel, I thought I’d throw a few of my observations into the mix.

From HR 4633

(5) TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FROM GSA- For purposes of section 201(a) of the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 (40 U.S.C. 481(a)), a State carrying out activities using amounts from a grant under this section shall be treated as an executive agency and part of the Department of Transportation when carrying out such activities. For purposes of carrying out such activities, the Secretary shall, at the request of a State, enter into an agreement for the acquisition, on behalf of the State, of any goods, services, or supplies available to the Secretary from the General Services Administration, including acquisitions from prime venders. All such acquisitions shall be undertaken through the most efficient and speedy means practicable, including through electronic ordering arrangements.

From a recent digital angel (adsxe) PR:
We chose The New York Fire Department and The U.S. Department of Transportation due to existing relationships. In fact, Norman Mineta, current Secretary of The U.S. Department of Transportation was the keynote speaker at Digital Angel’s World Launch in October of 2000 when he was Secretary of Commerce.”

Link to Mineta PR

From another digital angel PR:
Applied Digital Solutions, Inc.
(Nasdaq:ADSXE), an advanced technology development company, today announced that Frank E. Lalley, President and CEO of the company’s Computer Equity(Compec) and Government Telecommunications (GTI) subsidiaries, has been appointed to the additional position of Vice President for Government Solutions. (snip)

Mr. Lalley joined Applied Digital’s Compec subsidiary in January 2002 after a distinguished, 35-year career in the federal government. Most recently, Mr. Lalley served as Assistant Commissioner for Service Delivery in the General Services Administration’s Federal Technology Service.

Link to Frank Lalley PR

It appears that digital angel's parent company already has some well placed connections to take advantage of opportunities presented in this bill.

129 posted on 06/21/2002 9:54:44 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: B.R. Burton
My position on it is complicated, but when I first saw the solution, I was shocked.

Gotta link? I'd be very interested in reading it.

130 posted on 06/21/2002 10:11:54 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: weikel
"Cool. I gotta ask since you seem to be an intelligent and reasonable christian how can god be loving and send everyone who doesn't accept Christ to eternal hell( Im only interested in BR's answers). Or is this another misunderstanding? Not all non christians are bad people after all."

Excellent question. It is not so much a misunderstanding, but more of not seeing the entire picture. God isn't the one who makes the choice for the person to go to hell or not, that's up to them. This will be a bit complex, but bear with me:

- The Spiritual Realm is governed by laws. Some science almost approches this, like the Superstring theory, and other metaphysics type analysis.

- One of these laws is that sin brings death. Spiritual death, including physical death. When Adam sinned, his sin brought the curse of physical death upon all of his offspring. This curse transfers from father to child, not from mother to child. Scientifically, this could be explained that the DNA for the blood for the child comes from the sperm, not the egg. It also explains how and why the Messiah had to be born of a virgin. The fact that we are born with a curse of death does not doom us, yet, to hell, although with this curse comes a propensity to sin. God gave Adam "dominion" over the earth. Adam was King of the Earth. God told him not to eat of a certain Tree, and yet satan, tricked Eve into it, and Adam went along. So, when Adam obeyed Satan, he put himself under Satan, and transferred his authority over the earth to him. This is why the New Testament calls Satan "the god of this world." It is also why liberalism is so powerful, and evil reigns in the world. It is why people hate the United States and Israel, because they stand for truth in the world.

Back to spiritual laws:
- God cannot abide near sin - or, let me re-phrase that, sin cannot abide near God. It will be destroyed by the radiance of His Light. This is because He is totally Holy, and Just. He is obligated to punish sin just as much as a judge is obligated to punish a convicted murderer in his court. If we were to appear before God with but a smidge of a crimson stain of sin on our souls, we will be destroyed - sooner or later.
- Unfortunately, we are in a dilemma now, since you and I, Weikel, are sinners! Everyone here is a sinner. All have fallen short of God's Perfection, and He cannot abide with us. At this point, we are doomed to hell-fire.

- Yet, with all this in mind, there is a solution. If someone, who were innocent, and sinless - like Adam before he sinned, and tempted in all ways to truely represent mankind, were to be punished for sin, in our stead, then the sin-debt could indeed be paid. It is spiritually legal. Unfortunately, no man on earth could have done so, since I mentioned that the curse of sin passes from father to son. No man with a human father can pay the sin-debt, and yet the person who is to pay it, has to be totally human!

- When Man was created, He was a Reflection of the Image of God. The Image of God is the first emanation from God's Infinite Being. This Emanation is the bridge between God and Man. Since God is infinite, and we are finite, there is an infinite chasm between us. God sent forth an Emanation, His Word, which bridges this Gap. This Word is in essence identical with God, yet streams from Him to interact with Man. This Word became incarnate in flesh, born of a virgin, so that He could pay the sin debt, because He loved His creation so much, and did not want them to perish. This Word became God's "Son", as the Holy Spirit through a supernatural act, fertilized one of her eggs, into which the Word became embodied. Even before this incarnation, God's Word was referred to as "Son", even by non-Christian Jews, in ancient times. I can prove this. I have the texts.

- The Word Incarnate, Yeshua of Nazareth, who was not half-man, half-God, but 100% Man, and 100% God (the sperm that fertilized the egg was uniquely created, yet totally human, which by default had no sin-curse) was tempted in all ways and did not sin. He was slain on the cross in OUR STEAD, and yet Hell could NOT hold Him, because it had no authority over the one who had no sin - yet He paid the debt of death. Then He rose from the dead and defeated sin, and took back the Creation He gave Adam, from satan, and will return soon to claim His property.

- So, with all that said, the question should not be "how can God be loving and send non-Christians to hell", but "how can God be so loving and die for all upon the cross, all that would accept His offer of eternal life?" - The issue is not "my religion is better than yours", but rather, "Will you not accept this free gift of Life from the God of heaven?" And if the potential recipient says, "no", then how can one be saved? If they reject the One who died in their stead, they have no hope - and God has no choice, because He gave it to them to choose, because He wanted His creatures to love Him for Him, and not because they are simply robots.

Sorry for the long response, but there is so much to understand to see the whole picture, and this is but a grain of sand to it all.
131 posted on 06/21/2002 10:22:59 PM PDT by B.R. Burton
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To: Richard Kimball
Why, I'm glad you asked! =-)

His books are called:

The Science of God

Genesis and the Big Bang

Genesis One
(for non-scientific folks, the other books are all scientific jargon)

Here are some links:
Gerald Schroeder.com
The Age of the Universe

132 posted on 06/21/2002 10:27:37 PM PDT by B.R. Burton
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To: Richard Kimball
Also:
Evolution [!] Bible Style
133 posted on 06/21/2002 10:41:48 PM PDT by B.R. Burton
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To: Sabertooth
Obviously the FedGov would prefer to chip all of its "subjects", rather than guard our borders and expell the invaders.

That does not inspire confidence. I do not look forward to where President Hitlery and Atty General Schumer will take this.

134 posted on 06/21/2002 11:09:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: freeeee
bump ..... my God, this country is SO screwed the next time Demoncrats win a majority and Presidency ....

135 posted on 06/21/2002 11:10:56 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: weikel
Or a micro enzyme could be released which would cause instant amnesia, psychosis, paranoia, rage, etc.

Too bad we'll get 20 years in the Gulag for looking into the chip.

136 posted on 06/21/2002 11:11:22 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Richard Kimball; _Jim
_Jim counts on being among the elite who administer the program and check on the peasants, so to him it's all upside: better control of the proles.
137 posted on 06/21/2002 11:13:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: freeeee
Were you actually surprised by this move?
My, my...more are catching on every day. There may be some hope left yet afterall.
This has been an ongoing issue since at least 9-11-95...
ACLU Opposes National ID System and Computer Registry

You may be late to the show, but you're seated front row center now.
national card 1995...1995 was just a random year off the top of me 'ead
It's been 'round quite some time now...This paper is an extract from a report on the Swiss PTT's Multi-Function Card Project, dated January 1993, and re-published in 'Chip-Based Payment Schemes' in September 1996
A chip-card is a standard-sized plastic card that "contains an integrated circuit or 'chip' which gives the card the ability to store and/or process data" (Walters 1992, p.18).
Snip...Trials commenced with storage-only chips in the late 1970s and with smart-cards during the early 1980s. Much of the initiative in the area has emanated from France and French companies, but Japanese and American suppliers have also been active in the area.
Things have been moving slower than anticipated apparently. Nothing like a little thesis - antithesis - synthesis to speed things along.

138 posted on 06/21/2002 11:15:59 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: freeeee; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; ScreamingFist; JD86; Diver Dave; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; ...
Just say NO!!!!

Toward FREEDOM

139 posted on 06/21/2002 11:26:04 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
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To: Sabertooth
You forgot the government is importing muslims. State Department Blows $500,000 to Import Muslims and for more hits and laughter our Under Secretary of State wants to know how we turn 20,000 into 4 million.

And don't worry we won't offend them at the airport by searching them.

140 posted on 06/21/2002 11:26:26 PM PDT by niki
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