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It's Here...The Federal ID card
The Idaho Observer ^ | 6/21/02 | Hari Heath

Posted on 06/21/2002 2:42:31 PM PDT by freeeee

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HELL NO!!!
1 posted on 06/21/2002 2:42:32 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: *Bio_metrics; *libertarians
Ping
2 posted on 06/21/2002 2:45:34 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
All of this under a so-called conservative administration. Understand yet you Republicans---you've been had!!!
3 posted on 06/21/2002 2:57:44 PM PDT by Digger
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To: freeeee
The Mark of the Beast v1.0. The verichip legal problems will place it in the right ownership soon.
4 posted on 06/21/2002 3:00:25 PM PDT by steve50
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I agree steve...THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!! btw ever hear of John Hagee? he's great!
5 posted on 06/21/2002 3:03:47 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Digger
All of this under a so-called conservative administration.

It's earned a lot of names, but 'conservative' isn't one of them.

Understand yet you Republicans---you've been had!!!

Actually, I think they like it.

I'll come right out and say I'm not going to submit to this. I'll never carry a National ID card, nor any card with a chip in it, and I'm not giving up any biometric info, period.

There have been a lot of infringements of liberty, and though I've complained, I've put up with them. There must be a line in the sand where we say, "This far, and not one bit further". To me, this is that line.

6 posted on 06/21/2002 3:04:29 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
Gimme a P...gimme an A...gimme a R...gimme an A...gimme a N...gimme an O...gimme an I...gimme another A!

What does it spell!?

I can't hear you!

Yeah team!!

7 posted on 06/21/2002 3:06:54 PM PDT by Postbro1
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To: freeeee
The mark of the beast is here

You are exactly correct.

Husband is an OTR truck driver. Not 6 months ago, he was informed at a company meeting that our state was planning to begin implementing the above mentioned 'microchips' in all CDLs' (Commercial Drivers' License) issued beginning within a couple of years. The 'new' license was not going to be an option from the way it was presented.

No License=no job=no way to support ones family. The number of the beast...
Revelation 13:11-18 tells exactly what is to come.
9 posted on 06/21/2002 3:08:20 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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Paranoia?

Well, if this weren't actually a real house bill, that might be the case. But it's real. It's called HR 4633, the "Driver's License Modernization Act of 2002." Go look at thomas.gov if you like.

People who fear unreal dangers are paranoid.

People who fear real dangers are concerned.

People who ignore real dangers are naïve.

So which are you?

11 posted on 06/21/2002 3:11:18 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: MatthewViti
I've heard the name, must admit I am no fan of TV evangalists. They have done their share to bring us to this point.
12 posted on 06/21/2002 3:11:33 PM PDT by steve50
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To: freeeee
"A State shall obtain biometric data for the identification of each individual to whom the State issues a new or renewed driver's license or identification card and shall maintain such data." Just what kind of biometric data "shall" the state obtain? "Biometric data obtained by a State under this paragraph shall be of a type that can be matched to the license or card holder only with the express cooperation of the license or card holder."

Can you say "Gattaca"?

"There is no gene for the human spirit."

13 posted on 06/21/2002 3:11:55 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: freeeee
I have friends who are Coptics (Eastern Right Orthodox Christians) in Egypt, they now live in the States; they can give you first hand info regarding smart cards.

In Egypt, they put the religion of the holder on the card and since Egypt is 99% Muslim, one can only imagine the prejudice exhibited against these poor Coptics.

Many are marked for death while traveling to Church, bias from all governmental agencies, bias on the job, if one is in business they experience a drop off of customers, and so on.

We can not allow the USA to do this. First it will be your religion, then whether or not you are a gun owner, if one is pro life, etc. The amount of information on these cards is endless..

14 posted on 06/21/2002 3:11:56 PM PDT by Coleus
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The amount of information on these cards is endless.

It is only limited by the amount of data one can physically fit on a chip, or on countless databases to be referenced by ID#/SSN which is as you say, endless.

No legal restrictions will limit the amount of data to be accessed by your "drivers license".

And they have the nerve to not call it a NATIONAL ID.

15 posted on 06/21/2002 3:16:39 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee
There have been a lot of infringements of liberty, and though I've complained, I've put up with them. There must be a line in the sand where we say, "This far, and not one bit further". To me, this is that line.

Needs repeating!! AMEN

16 posted on 06/21/2002 3:17:30 PM PDT by Japedo
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To: MatthewViti
I agree steve...THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!

Naw, the mark of the beast has got to be in your very forehead or in your hand (Rev 14:9), not your billfold.

Details, details! Is this the mark of the first or fourth beast?

Well, this tears it! The sky is falling! We must run and tell the king!

8^)

17 posted on 06/21/2002 3:17:57 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Digger
All of this under a so-called conservative administration. Understand yet you Republicans---you've been had!!!

Title IX
The 21 year-old drinking age
The Americans With Disabilities Act
The 1989 Assault Weapons Ban

...Now this.

What am I leaving out?

18 posted on 06/21/2002 3:20:12 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Japedo
Thank you. I hope you'll join me.

A mere few outraged citizens will pose no threat to this National ID card. It will take the stubborn refusal of many millions of us to make any significant difference.

Once this system is entrenched, it will be literally impossible to remove. We must oppose it now, or never.

19 posted on 06/21/2002 3:21:14 PM PDT by freeeee
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What am I leaving out?

CFR. I'm never going to let them live that one down.

20 posted on 06/21/2002 3:24:04 PM PDT by freeeee
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