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newsmax ^ | 6.19.02 | Barry Farber

Posted on 06/19/2002 3:17:46 PM PDT by swarthyguy

First, understand what I'm NOT saying. I'm not saying I'm a great columnist. I'm not even saying I'm a good columnist.

I'm saying only that I've been writing columns for some publication or other since 1950. Thousands of them.

And I'm saying nothing I've ever written has ever caused me more pain than this one.

Among the things that give me maximum pleasure in the world are my children, football, North Carolina barbecue, Polish music, skinny blondes, and brotherhood.

Yes, brotherhood. I quite literally weep with joy at stories of courageous whites preventing white haters in the South from lynching blacks, Ukrainian farmers risking their lives to hide Jews from the Nazis, Serbian monks protecting ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, Greeks and Turks selling hot dogs together from street carts in New York.

Freaky? Maybe. But, maybe not. Some people like all that sexy stuff. Some like all that violent stuff. Some like all that expensive stuff. I just happen to like all that brotherly stuff.

As a senior at the University of North Carolina in 1952 I led the successful fight to desegregate Kenan Stadium; and that was long before you got hugged by Hollywood movie stars or quoted in Newsweek for such activities that far South.

The French leader who handed Algeria its independence after World War II had better damned well be a tough French nationalist with a good war record. And he was: Gen. Charles DeGaulle. The American president who popped up in Beijing to open relations with communist China in the middle of the Cold War against communism had better damned well be a tough anti-communist, and not some soft-on-communism Democrat. And he was: Richard Nixon.

And you'd better have a thick scrapbook of brotherly deeds before you wonder out loud whether the "brotherhood" you've spent your life promoting and practicing is still appropriate to the Moslem world.

Brotherhood, morally correct back then, may actually be suicidal now. Throughout all our wars we've had people in America who were "of" the enemy; born of the enemy, descendants of the enemy, sympathetic with the enemy, enamored with the enemy, even willing to fight and die for the enemy.

But it never amounted to much. If any Hispanics residing in America made trouble for America during the Spanish-American War, history hasn't told us about it. During World War I we had a good-sized German population, but no major problems of sabotage or disloyalty. In fact, America's greatest air ace of that war was the enfabled German-American Eddie Rickenbacker.

In World War II we had Germans who up, the instant we went to war against Germany, admired Adolf Hitler, Italians who admired Mussolini, and Japanese who were overawed by the military power of their native Japan.

But when the war started, they all proved they were reliable Americans by a majority so overwhelming that the remainder gave us nothing to talk about.

And there's nothing strange about that. The only force tugging against their loyalty to America was their nationalism. And that little "hometown" tug was easily overcome by their awareness that America's democracy trumped the fascism of their homelands.

Today is different.

Islamic Antagonism

Today we have millions of residents, many if not most American citizens, who have, not a nationalistic, but a RELIGIOUS antagonism toward America. The Germans, Italians, and Japanese in America during World War II had zero RELIGIOUS hatred of America.

Islam does.

And all attempts by my brother "brotherhoodists" to spin that reality away are so futile they've been largely abandoned. Too much is now known of what's taught in the "madrassas," Islamic religious schools. Too much is known about what's preached in the mosques and spread through the Moslem media.

Right after 9-11 I, too, instinctively wanted to believe the terrorists were merely an aberrational few and that most Moslems, certainly in America, were little more than Catholics with a different doctrine, Jews with slightly darker complexions, or Presbyterians who wrote from right to left whose men preferred facial hair and whose women covered their heads differently.

Before 9/11 my brotherly intuition left me to assume the little Mustafas of Dearborn, Mich., and the little Achmeds of Alabama were patted on their backs by their proud fathers for learning to recite the Bill of Rights and urged by their mothers to hurry up and learn the Preamble to the Constitution.

Sorry. Not sarcastically sorry; I'm genuinely sorry.

Islam's religious antagonism to American political and social values is as powerful as it is primitive. Thomas Jefferson's sparkling exhortations in favor of democracy bounce like BBs off the thick armor of fundamentalist Islam – especially the kind of hateful, fundamentalist Islam force-pumped into those American mosques financed by the Wahabi sect of Saudi Arabia.

(What percentage of American mosques are financed by Saudi Arabia? The common figure most often heard is 50 percent!)

In World War II, Lutheran clergymen with German congregations in America never once said, "We must undermine America for our beloved Fuhrer Adolf Hitler. Catholic priests in Italian parishes never once said, "America is decadent, and we must bring it down for our beloved Duce, Benito Mussolini." And Japanese-American troops, called "nisei," demoralized their German foes in Italy with their combat ferocity.

Mosques all over America, however, are echo chambers for the Wahabi line. And it's pretty awful.

'America Is the Enemy'

"America is the enemy. Unbelievers in Islam deserve death. We must work with our Islamic brothers for Jihad! There is no higher distinction than martyrdom against the infidels who despoil our sacred soil with their unbelieving feet and aid the wretched Jew in their usurpation of our holy territory."

Heady stuff!

What gives me the right to worry about the octane of our Moslem countrymen's loyalty?

I glide easily to such concerns without infiltrating a mosque, purloining confidential documents from any Islamic organization, swallowing one drop of propaganda from Moslem-bashers, or wire-tapping a single imam.

All I had to do was observe the American Islamic reaction to 9-11. Or, heartbreakingly enough, the lack thereof.

Spiders weave webs. Beavers build dams. Humans react. The entire global Jewish community reacted instantly and thunderously denounced the crazed Jewish settler in Hebron who entered a mosque and slaughtered 50 or more Moslems at prayer. America instantly and thunderously denounced the accidental destruction of an Iranian civilian plane by an American military ship in the Persian Gulf.

Israel denounced its own assassination of an innocent Moroccan Arab in Lillehammar, Norway, who was catastrophically mistaken for one of the terrorists who murdered the Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics in Munich.

Listen now to the Moslem community of America. Listen closely!

Since Sept. 11, 2001 we've heard not one single, rousing, convincing, united blanket denunciation of the terror attack from the American Islamic community. Neither have we heard any rousing, convincing, etc. pro-American declaration from that community since that tragic date.

Everything we've heard is defensive. "Islam is a peaceful religion." "You can't indict our whole group because of a few terrorists." "You cannot discriminate against us because of our ethnicity or religion." "You are PROFILING!"

Agreed! But where are the ringing affirmations that they, the American Muslims, join the rest of us in victimhood and outrage against the attackers? Where is their proactive demand that all who commit such attacks be extirpated and annihilated?

If you put that question to "Islamic spokesmen" in the United States they will quickly furnish you with the names of prominent Moslems here and there who protested and a mosque or two in Jersey City and Sacramento that, indeed, issued supportive statements. But there's no political stethoscope powerful enough to detect any real fury palpitating behind the breast-bones of American Moslems, at least not fury against the terrorist attackers.

Am I asking too much when I expect just as much anti-terrorist, pro-American solidarity from the Islamic community as I do from the Protestant, Catholic and Jewish communities? Is it too much to ask the same sentiment from American Palestinians, Egyptians, Saudis, Jordanians, Iraqis, etc. as I do from Americans of every other national origin?

The muted and ambiguous murmur we do hear from our American Moslems makes me feel rather like the president of a corporation in the hospital who gets a note from the chairman of the board stating, "I have been authorized by the board of directors to wish you a speedy recovery – by vote of five to four!"

My lifelong friends in the "Brotherhood Caucus" try to restrain me. "Relax!" they counsel. "These people are shy. They're new here. They don't know how to react yet. It's not their style or tradition to protest or picket, or hold up placards, or even speak out loud."

That placated me for a while; but suddenly the American Moslems proved they did, indeed, have a voice; a loud one at that, that needed no coaxing.

Any shyness that might have prevented American Moslems from locking arms, hearts, and voices with other Americans after 9-11 vanished when the Israeli military entered Ramallah and Jenin to root out the terrorist bomb factories and suicide-homicide schools (operating, incidentally, quite openly inside refugee camps run by the United Nations!)

It was comforting to learn our American Moslems have a voice. It was disappointing to learn that voice is raised, not when their co-religionists attack America, but only when their co-religionist murderers face obliteration at the hands of Israelis seeking self-defense.

I'm an American who believes in God, seeks to serve his fellow man, likes a drink, and, though occasionally glancing at graven images of scantily clad women in our culture, wishes there were fewer.

If my lifestyle is punishable, I want it to be punished by the Almighty Himself when He decides to render judgment upon me personally; and not by those living in the most God-kissed country on earth who quietly cheer the monsters of 9-11 and denounce those who interfere with their U.N.-sheltered murderers of innocent soldiers, men, women, and children. I write this, not in hatred, but in disappointment; not in anger, but dismay.

Hello, Moslems of America! Do you really want to remain the only group in our history who said "No, thanks" to our values, our openness, our eagerness to include, our democracy, and our willingness to make people as different as you are from us?

In my lifetime, Americans of German, Italian and Japanese extraction cheered as their "terrorists" were defeated and our American values replaced the tyrannies of their long-tortured homelands.

I want to live long for many reasons; and among them is the desire to be there when we can lift a glass together – fruit juice for you, vodka-on-the-rocks for me – to celebrate the triumph of democracy in every single nation in the Moslem world.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: islam; islamic; islamis; muslim; muslims; usa
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To: PoppingSmoke
"Absolute nonsense"

Yes, islam just wants to be our friend. You are getting sleepy.... sleeeepy....

41 posted on 06/20/2002 7:10:10 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: rageaholic
:Yes, islam just wants to be our friend. You are getting sleepy.... sleeeepy...."

You need to grow up....

42 posted on 06/20/2002 7:19:27 AM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: PoppingSmoke
you need to get off the Allah-crack.
43 posted on 06/20/2002 7:32:39 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: rageaholic
To: timestax

Allah hates muslims.


40 posted on 6/20/02 7:08 AM Pacific by rageaholic
Yeah, but "allah" is just a made up mythical fiqure. A "real allah" would be blessing those isamic/muslim monkeys with some brains, and help them get vocations, instead of just "people watching" in the local markets, whilst showing off their latest machine gun, or grenade launcher. A real "allah" would have helped those "people" shed the dictatorships that rule over them, and given them the means to have a modern industrial way of life, instead of harbouring jeously towards the Western world and their high standard of living, which we maintain through long hours of , what===WORK! Not sitting in local markets talking jihad all day long. sheesh! what wierd people they are! They better not expect a handout of $$ from me!!
44 posted on 06/20/2002 7:35:07 AM PDT by timestax
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To: moneyrunner
bump
45 posted on 06/20/2002 7:44:44 AM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax
Odin hates 'em too
46 posted on 06/20/2002 7:57:19 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: muggs
bumpty uppity!
47 posted on 06/20/2002 7:59:41 AM PDT by timestax
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To: rageaholic
Grow up, find a life, end of conversation.
48 posted on 06/20/2002 8:05:06 AM PDT by PoppingSmoke
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To: swarthyguy
Is our war against the Islamic fanatics is really a sex driven war?
From the beginning of time the human animal addressed the basic biological need for sex, in a way much similar to animals. The men need sex basically for its pleasure, and the women need it mostly for propagating the human race. Thus men looked at women as a sex object? And women looked at men for protection/commitment.


Since then, civilization and religions imposed different rules on the human animal, and sexuality. We cannot walk around naked, men cannot have as many wives as they want, men cannot beat the women if they refused to have sex with them, men cannot throw out women who become unattractive/old/back-talkers without paying dearly!......The problem with this picture is as the world civilization imposed artificial restriction on the male animal, the Islamic religion kept most of the animal privileges of the cave men to its followers. Islam was invented by a man, and to assure its propagation, it catered to men.


At this point, Moslems who live in Moslem countries do not care how the rest of the world behaves. That is simply because most of these countries are still protecting the rights of the men to abuse women. However, there are two problems, first the Moslem men who visit the west are terrified from the amount of freedom our females have, and second, the new global village and the dominance of the Hollywood movies and American culture assures these backward people that there is no place to run or to hide from the new way of life, where women have equality. They fear the potential of revolts from their female population, and a continuous degradation of their rights to use and abuse women.
49 posted on 06/20/2002 8:05:45 AM PDT by philosofy123
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To: PoppingSmoke
Yeah... as if you had any plans before death.
50 posted on 06/20/2002 8:07:50 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: philosofy123
Islam's motivating force is a post-death sex party with drinks and snacks, alternatively fear of punishment from an angry vengeful god. A pathetic cult that appeals to the lowest forms of humanity. No wonder its popular with arabs.
52 posted on 06/20/2002 8:11:30 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: KirklandJunction
As an American Muslim, when I read of a skyjacker drinking in a Florida topless bar, I said out loud "that is No True Muslim!"

That you had this reaction only upon learning that this murderer of 3000 innocent people had an alcoholic drink speaks volumes about your faith.

53 posted on 06/20/2002 8:39:39 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: philosofy123
No. The drive is to force everyone on planet earth into one little box. Rules about how long a man's beard must be and public checks on whether armpit hair is shaven show this.

We believe all men are equal, they believe all men must be alike. They must all pray at the same time, they must dress the same way, they must eat the same way and the same kinds of foods. They must even all think alike with any disagreement or different kind of thought being punished by death.

There is a professor in Pakistan who is under a sentence of death. His crime was to say that maybe Mohammed’s parents went Muslims because they were dead before Mohammed got his revelation. Now that is logical. Sort of like saying that Ezekiel or Moses couldn't have been Christian as they were dead before Christ came.

But to say this apparently is considered blasphemy under Islamic law.

You are missing the bigger picture. It really is all about freedom.

a.cricket
54 posted on 06/20/2002 8:41:34 AM PDT by another cricket
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To: another cricket
NO..it's about the Islamics/muslims not wanting to work. All they do is sit, or stand in the local markets and people watch!!Showing off their machine uns and grenade launchers and talking up jihad. Just think if all Americans wasted all day people watching !
55 posted on 06/20/2002 8:52:11 AM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax
er machine guns, not uns
56 posted on 06/20/2002 8:52:46 AM PDT by timestax
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To: KirklandJunction
Mr. Farber has no room in his heart, or his soul, for American Muslims who abhor, deride, denounce and want nothing to do with terrorists, of any kind. And who have said so loudly and publically and then must tolerate oafs who say "I didn't hear YOU!"

Nor do I, for I don't believe they exist, your protests to the contrary notwithstanding.

57 posted on 06/20/2002 8:53:19 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: KirklandJunction
I don't believe you and will never trust a muslim! The religion teaches murder and rewards of virgins awaiting the perps after they've "martyred" themselves. Which is the same as saying after they've defecated in their baggy trousers!

If muslims want hate they're going to get it in spades!

58 posted on 06/20/2002 8:58:35 AM PDT by elcaudillo
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To: timestax
bump
59 posted on 06/20/2002 9:15:04 AM PDT by timestax
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To: KirklandJunction
As an American Muslim,....

...you cannot be trusted, because your koran tells you that all non-islamics are to be reverted or killed. Mr Farber is, unfortunately (as he laments, himself!), correct in his assessment.

My experience, gleaned primarily from living for 7 months in Iran back in the 70's, is that one-on-one y'all are OK. In a group, however, y'all are dangerous, even to yourselves.

I, like Mr Farber, am sorry to have to take this postition but, like the doctor husband character opposite Sally Fields in "Not without my daughter" (a movie - true story - about an American woman married to an Iranian muslim medical doctor who studied and matriculated here in the US), once you are surrounded by your "homies", you revert to the oppressive and violent rules called out by the koran.

Can you say, unequivocally and without reservation, and swear it before your allah, in public, that you would fight for this country or for your neighbor against an islamist jihad?

Better yet, let's just hear you go ahead and make said vow, and keep your hands where we can see them so we can tell you aren't crossing your fingers at the time! In fact, why aren't American muslims, like the American Germans, Italians, and Japanese during WWII, as described factually by Mr Farber, making this promise accross the board and freely? Where are the islamists true loyalties?

Unfortunately, and I truly wish this was NOT the case, I think the answer to that lies in the 9/11 experience, not in the fine-sounding words of one individual muslim not surrounded by his homies!

To all non-islamics anywhere in the world, here's my advice: Stay vigilent and stay armed!

60 posted on 06/20/2002 9:31:30 AM PDT by mil-vet
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