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MUSLIMS PLAN TO BUILD MOSQUE THIS FALL (MURFREESBORO, TN) IF PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVES
The Nashville Tennessean ^ | June 19, 2002 | EMILY HEFFTER

Posted on 06/19/2002 7:38:48 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

After a decade of raising money, Rutherford County Muslims plan to break ground on a mosque this fall. The Murfreesboro Planning Commission will consider plans today for the Masjed Al-Iman, which means ''the mosque of faith.'' The proposed site is on East Northfield Boulevard near Pitts Lane.


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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Give them their permits after they allow churches to be built in Mecca!
22 posted on 06/19/2002 9:16:40 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: jae471
Suppose Hitler had only called Naziism a church.

Should we have permitted him then to build hundreds of "Nazi Temples" across America in the 1930s?

23 posted on 06/19/2002 9:19:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: swarthyguy
Mosques are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached.

And churches here in this country were once the same dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the British crown were actively preached.

Think about it.

24 posted on 06/19/2002 9:23:18 AM PDT by Gaston
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To: swarthyguy
Mosques are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached.

It should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion.

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"Churches are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."

"Protestant Christianity should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."

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"Cathedrals are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."

"Catholic Christianity should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."

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"Temples are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."

"Hinduism should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."

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"Synagogues are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."

"Judaism should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."

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Get the picture? These may not be your sentiments, but they are most likely the sentiments of somebody.

If there is evidence that violent revolution is being fomented in a particular mosque, then it's time to put the smack down on the perpertators.

But if you are looking to outlaw an entire religion because of your fear, then whatever country you want to live in isn't America.

25 posted on 06/19/2002 9:24:26 AM PDT by TigerTale
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To: tessalu
Islam is a cult that should be outlawed.

Too bad we have those pesky Constitutional issues muddling things up, eh?
26 posted on 06/19/2002 10:02:54 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: TigerTale
YOu miss the point. None of the other religions actviely threaten American and rest of the nonislamic world with death and destruction and ACTUALLY DO IT.
27 posted on 06/19/2002 12:52:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Gaston
1. Nothing in the constitution requires us to commit suicide. Various portions of the Constitution have been suspended when the threat was serious enough. A "religion" that actively promotes violent jihad against its host country and the rest of the non-islamic world forfeits the right to use our freedoms against us.

It's not a religion, but an ideology dedicated to the destruction of anything that doesn't fit into its world view.

28 posted on 06/19/2002 1:04:02 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: sheik yerbouty
Wholeheartedly agree. When they allow us to build churches in Saudi Arabia without persecution. THEN they get a permit here.
29 posted on 06/19/2002 1:08:41 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: Gaston
So where is the islamic Thomas Paine?
30 posted on 06/19/2002 1:19:59 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
None of the other religions actviely threaten American and rest of the nonislamic world with death and destruction and ACTUALLY DO IT.

Islam did not fly those planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. Muslims did. It's hard for a belief system to hijack an aircraft.

Furthermore, not every Muslim in the world was on those planes. Guilt for the deed falls on those who did it, or those who assisted the perpetrators. Joe Muslim, who lives down the street from you or me and had nothing to do with the acts of these militant Islamics, is innocent. To hold him accoutable for someone else's sins is not only un-American, it's flat out wrong.

Your contention that Islam is not a religion is laughable--the most transparent sort of rationalization. Not only is Islam a religion, it is a major world religion. The fact that I happen to disagree with the tenets of Islam does nothing to change the fact that Muslims are protected by the First Amendment as much as Christians. Your attempts to define Muslims out of the protective sphere of the Constitution endagers me as well as them. If YOU can do it to Muslims, someone else can do it to my faith.

When the founders drafted the First Amendment, they had in mind the religious wars of Europe, which ravaged that continent for centuries. Their solution was to give people all faiths an equal opportunity to practice their beliefs, so long as they respected the rights of others to do the same. Until the Muslims of Tennessee try to impose sharia on unwilling Americans, they are free to worship as they choose. It's called liberty.

This is pretty basic civics stuff. Did your high school teachers not cover this, or do you just not accept all that talk about freedom?

You know, even during the Cold War, people were free to join the Communist Party USA--and defending that freedom would have been a conservative position to take.

31 posted on 06/19/2002 1:55:51 PM PDT by TigerTale
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To: Travis McGee
Should we have permitted him then to build hundreds of "Nazi Temples" across America in the 1930s?

We did. They were the forerunners of the current bout of New Age silliness.

32 posted on 06/19/2002 1:57:54 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: TigerTale
Naive gullible fellows like you will be the death of us. A better analogy would be to to he Nazis -- Did we allow the Bund to flourish after Hitler declared war on us.
33 posted on 06/19/2002 2:06:36 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Naive gullible fellows like you will be the death of us. A better analogy would be to to he Nazis -- Did we allow the Bund to flourish after Hitler declared war on us.

The Bund was an arm the German government. Are you saying that all of Islam is subordinate to Al Qaeda?

34 posted on 06/19/2002 2:08:06 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Weren't there branches of the Bund in Jersey and across the country? Holding rallies combining US symbols with those of the Nazis. They weren't allowed to after the war started.
35 posted on 06/19/2002 2:11:27 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Wholeheartedly agree. When they allow us to build churches in Saudi Arabia without persecution. THEN they get a permit here.

  Do you really think the people asking for the permit in Tennessee have that authority?

Drew Garrett

36 posted on 06/19/2002 2:14:05 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: swarthyguy
Weren't there branches of the Bund in Jersey and across the country? Holding rallies combining US symbols with those of the Nazis. They weren't allowed to after the war started.

The Bund was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the German government. I see that you refused to answer my question, so I will ask it again, and again, and again, until you deign to answer it: is all of Islam subordinate to Al-Qaeda?

37 posted on 06/19/2002 2:15:52 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Are they going to have one of those amplified goofballs yelling out of a minaret at the crack of dawn, calling the feebs to sleepytime prayer and annoying the hell out of everybody else?

For a moronic cult that prays 5+ times/day, they sure have a lot of time on their hands to blow people up - after annoying the hell out of them with their silly wake-up yelling gibberish.

38 posted on 06/19/2002 2:17:48 PM PDT by Hank Rearden
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To: Poohbah
Alqaeda expresses some of the highest ideals of islam; it's jihad to establish a worldwide islamic state is an expression of core islamic values. Subordinate? I don't know. But There are no contradictions between the the philosphy of alqaeda and the desires/wishes/rantings of the imams.
39 posted on 06/19/2002 2:20:24 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Did we allow the Bund to flourish after Hitler declared war on us.

I know of no instance in which an American citizen lost his or her freedom simply for espousing the principles of National Socialism. If you have an example of such, please provide it.

Also, please don't confuse me with the misguided civil libertarians we have today. As far as I am concerned, you can profile all you want to focus an investigation. But if you are going to start preventing people from assembling and worshipping as they choose, then you better have evidence of a crime or an act of war. Otherwise, you are liable to run into a lot of conservative folks like me who will defend the rights of the Muslims to practice their religion with the same freedom with which we expect to practice our own.

40 posted on 06/19/2002 2:22:28 PM PDT by TigerTale
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