Posted on 06/19/2002 7:38:48 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Edited on 05/07/2004 9:20:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Should we have permitted him then to build hundreds of "Nazi Temples" across America in the 1930s?
And churches here in this country were once the same dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the British crown were actively preached.
Think about it.
It should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion.
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"Churches are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."
"Protestant Christianity should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."
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"Cathedrals are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."
"Catholic Christianity should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."
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"Temples are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."
"Hinduism should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."
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"Synagogues are dens of sedition where the actual overthrow of the prevailing order, way of life and the US government is actively preached."
"Judaism should not be allowed to hide behind the right of freedom of religion."
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Get the picture? These may not be your sentiments, but they are most likely the sentiments of somebody.
If there is evidence that violent revolution is being fomented in a particular mosque, then it's time to put the smack down on the perpertators.
But if you are looking to outlaw an entire religion because of your fear, then whatever country you want to live in isn't America.
It's not a religion, but an ideology dedicated to the destruction of anything that doesn't fit into its world view.
Islam did not fly those planes into the WTC and the Pentagon. Muslims did. It's hard for a belief system to hijack an aircraft.
Furthermore, not every Muslim in the world was on those planes. Guilt for the deed falls on those who did it, or those who assisted the perpetrators. Joe Muslim, who lives down the street from you or me and had nothing to do with the acts of these militant Islamics, is innocent. To hold him accoutable for someone else's sins is not only un-American, it's flat out wrong.
Your contention that Islam is not a religion is laughable--the most transparent sort of rationalization. Not only is Islam a religion, it is a major world religion. The fact that I happen to disagree with the tenets of Islam does nothing to change the fact that Muslims are protected by the First Amendment as much as Christians. Your attempts to define Muslims out of the protective sphere of the Constitution endagers me as well as them. If YOU can do it to Muslims, someone else can do it to my faith.
When the founders drafted the First Amendment, they had in mind the religious wars of Europe, which ravaged that continent for centuries. Their solution was to give people all faiths an equal opportunity to practice their beliefs, so long as they respected the rights of others to do the same. Until the Muslims of Tennessee try to impose sharia on unwilling Americans, they are free to worship as they choose. It's called liberty.
This is pretty basic civics stuff. Did your high school teachers not cover this, or do you just not accept all that talk about freedom?
You know, even during the Cold War, people were free to join the Communist Party USA--and defending that freedom would have been a conservative position to take.
We did. They were the forerunners of the current bout of New Age silliness.
The Bund was an arm the German government. Are you saying that all of Islam is subordinate to Al Qaeda?
Do you really think the people asking for the permit in Tennessee have that authority?
Drew Garrett
The Bund was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the German government. I see that you refused to answer my question, so I will ask it again, and again, and again, until you deign to answer it: is all of Islam subordinate to Al-Qaeda?
For a moronic cult that prays 5+ times/day, they sure have a lot of time on their hands to blow people up - after annoying the hell out of them with their silly wake-up yelling gibberish.
I know of no instance in which an American citizen lost his or her freedom simply for espousing the principles of National Socialism. If you have an example of such, please provide it.
Also, please don't confuse me with the misguided civil libertarians we have today. As far as I am concerned, you can profile all you want to focus an investigation. But if you are going to start preventing people from assembling and worshipping as they choose, then you better have evidence of a crime or an act of war. Otherwise, you are liable to run into a lot of conservative folks like me who will defend the rights of the Muslims to practice their religion with the same freedom with which we expect to practice our own.
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