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Critics pan plan to exclude some non-U.S. citizens from (Connecticut) driver's licenses
WTNH - TV : New Haven, CT ^ | June 17, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 06/18/2002 7:23:18 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough

(Hartford-WTNH, June 17, 2002 11:00 PM) _ About 175 people turned out for a hearing on proposed changes in Connecticut's driver's license rules for non-U-S citizens.

Tonight's meeting was much smoother than the last. DMV officials say the changes are about improving security, but legal immigrants say access to a license should not be linked to immigration status.

Outside the Legislative Office Building the crowd waved flags and chanted in Spanish 'Yes, we can.' Inside, legal immigrants like Jaime Padilla told a panel of DMV officials that going to work or getting to the doctor is difficult without a driver's license.

"He can't even go to school. He can't drive, so he can't do that," says Padilla, through an interpreter.

Under the new proposal, DMV officials say most people with temporary visa's [sic] would be denied a Connecticut driver's license unless they have been here on a visa for at least a year and are recognized by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Bill Seymour says,"We want to work with people but there is a point we need to know who people are."

Critics say as long as you can prove who you are and can pass the test, legal immigrants should have the same rights as others.

Shannon Jackvino says,"The bottom line is that this takes away a person's rights."

There are exceptions.

People protected by the government, like refugees and others awaiting asylum. One immigration lawyer says the rules are simply too complex.

Attorney Phil Curns says,"Even an immigration lawyer would find this complicated, trying to figure out who is protected and who is not protected."

Jaime Padilla has been trying for years. He says he has the documentation and still can't get a driver's license.

"He feels he is being discriminated against," says Padilla through an interpreter.

DMV officials admit the rules are complex, critics say some 400,000 legal immigrants in Connecticut could be impacted.

DMV officials will review recommendations from the meeting and then submit them to a committee of lawmakers for consideration.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: dmv; driverslicenses; immigrants; ins; nonuscitizens; visas

1 posted on 06/18/2002 7:23:18 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Buy them all a bottle of Metamucil and get them out of the country.
2 posted on 06/18/2002 7:26:32 AM PDT by zarf
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To: LurkedLongEnough
But... but ... we have to have driver's licenses for the Swedish au pair girls......
3 posted on 06/18/2002 7:32:26 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: CatoRenasci
and for the illegals who can then use Motor Voter to redeem votes for the Dems who paid for them. Why does anyone think motorvoter was created in the first place?
4 posted on 06/18/2002 8:24:59 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: CatoRenasci
What about international drivers license?
I know AAA has the application so US driver's
licenses can be valid in reciprocal countries.

Why not just limit all "guests" to a DL as long as the date on their I-94 card if they are tourist.
If you are illegal, don't ask.

5 posted on 06/18/2002 8:43:24 AM PDT by Greeklawyer
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To: LurkedLongEnough
I just don't understand. A photo Drivers License is one of the key pieces of ID, used for nearly everything else. It is de facto proof of citizenship, in fact.

Therefore, if one is not a citizen, ergo, no License. They are just doing an end run around citizenship requirements. "Sure, they are illegal, but it won't matter when we are done."

6 posted on 06/18/2002 8:51:50 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: LurkedLongEnough
No, no, no!!! Encourage this!! Invite them in, and when they identify themselves as illegals, immediately arrest them, pack them in a paddy wagon and deport their asses out of here!!

Shannon Jackvino says,"The bottom line is that this takes away a person's rights."

Who in hell is this lunkhead? I was always taught that driving was a privilege, not a right!!

Bottom line: illegal aliens neither have, nor deserve, the rights and privileges accorded to natives and legal immigrants. Sorry, but there is a legal entryway into this country. Take it, or live on the fringes of society. Or better, just go home.

7 posted on 06/18/2002 9:19:35 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Freedom4US
Therefore, if one is not a citizen, ergo, no License. My wife is from Finland. We have gone through all the proper channels of INS. I have retained an Immigration Lawyer... she has work authorization and travel permits... however, it could still take 4 YEARS for her to get a green card. Not all foreigners are evil and looking to fraud the government.
8 posted on 06/18/2002 9:34:39 AM PDT by IronKros
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To: LurkedLongEnough
"He can't even go to school. He can't drive, so he can't do that," says Padilla, through an interpreter.

Learn English...It just might help your cause...dumbasses.

FMCDH

9 posted on 06/18/2002 10:08:02 AM PDT by nothingnew
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To: #1CTYankee; .303 Brit; 2nd amendment mama; 2Trievers; AGBRUHN; always vigilant; Andonius_99...
CT Bump!

If any one would like to be removed from my CT Bump list, please let me know and it will be done ASAP. Conversely, if you would like to be added the same holds true.

10 posted on 06/18/2002 12:08:52 PM PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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To: LurkedLongEnough
First of all, driving is a priviledge, not a right. That being said I have no problem with LEGAL aliens paying for the priviledge, just like everyone else. What I have problems with is the use of that proof-of-priviledge to garner a right, that of voting, from which aliens are prohibited.

Maybe it's time to demand to see a birth certificate or citizenship papers at the polls before voting.

11 posted on 06/18/2002 12:18:15 PM PDT by Wm Bach
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To: LoneGOPinCT
First off, none of these people ever have insurance. Second, all their yelling and screaming is pointless because I'll be they all just drove illegaly to the hearing to begin with.

The whole drivers liscense and insurance thing has really been ticking me off lately. The criminal class simply doesn't get them, and when stopped all they get is a summons that they don't pay.

If you get run over by one of these people, your family isn't going to collect one cent.

12 posted on 06/18/2002 12:18:52 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Jaime Padilla has been trying for years. He says he has the documentation and still can't get a driver's license. "He feels he is being discriminated against," says Padilla through an interpreter.

(in Algore Spanish for Jaime's convenience)
Hola, Jaime! Mira, no esta un Americano. Tu esta un alieno ilegal. No Americano, no identificacion por conducir del Departmento de los Vehiculos con Motors. Adios!

13 posted on 06/18/2002 12:23:48 PM PDT by LoneGOPinCT
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To: LurkedLongEnough;LoneGOPinCT
Jaime Padilla

I wonder if he's related to Jose Padilla?

Jose Padilla

[Are you sure that wasn't 'Peggy Hill' spanish? ;-)]

14 posted on 06/18/2002 12:35:01 PM PDT by the
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To: LurkedLongEnough
This is the state of lunacy we're in today in America regarding immigrants. Immigrants - visitors to this country usually - who can't speak, read or write English demanding their 'right' to obtain a drivers license.
Only in America and the fact that ultra-liberal Connecticut is the site of this kind of immigrant 'protest' says much about how absurd the whole thing really is.

Not a citizen but here legally? You get a temporary, restricted license that expires when your visa does after you show proof of insurance on your own or another family member's policy. Basic English langauge skills must be shown to obtain the temporary license. Not here legally? Don't even think about it and if we pick you up for driving without a license you're deported, right now. How's that? Fat chance. We'll probably give away a free DL to anyone who asks as long as they aren't a citizen. They have all those 'rights', dontchaknow?

15 posted on 06/18/2002 3:13:06 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: IronKros
"Therefore, if one is not a citizen, ergo, no License. My wife is from Finland. We have gone through all the proper channels of INS. I have retained an Immigration Lawyer... she has work authorization and travel permits... however, it could still take 4 YEARS for her to get a green card. Not all foreigners are evil and looking to fraud the government."

Well, what I am saying is there should be some mechanism in place that if for some reason (absconding, for example) we want to deport somebody then by default the license is revoked. Hell, they do that to citizens if you have parking tickets, for goodness sake.

16 posted on 06/18/2002 4:32:48 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Rodney King
If you get run over by one of these people, your family isn't going to collect one cent.

This is what uninsured and under insured coverage is for on your automobile insurance. You can collect from your own insurance in these cases. It is not pretty but it may provide the coverage one needs.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

17 posted on 06/19/2002 10:21:11 AM PDT by harpseal
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