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Lie Detector for Elizabeth's Uncle 'Inconclusive'
Newsmax ^ | 06.16.02 | PRNewswire

Posted on 06/16/2002 10:53:07 AM PDT by callisto

Edward Smart, the father of missing Salt Lake City teen Elizabeth Smart, submitted to a polygraph test and came out clean, a well-placed law-enforcement source tells Newsweek.

But polygraph results for other members of the prominent Mormon family -- including Elizabeth's uncle, Tom Smart -- were "inconclusive," Newsweek reports in the current issue.

In an interview with Newsweek, Tom Smart pledged full cooperation with investigators probing the disappearance of his 14-year-old niece who was snatched from her bed in the middle of the night June 5.

It's all right, "tear me apart," if you have to, as long as it will help solve the mystery, he tells Newsweek.

Officials say they have no plans to give a second polygraph to Tom Smart, whose wife, Heidi says "he was in bed with me all night" the evening Elizabeth disappeared, report Los Angeles Correspondent Andrew Murr and Chicago Correspondent Kevin Peraino in the June 24 issue of Newsweek (on newsstands Monday, June 17).

Police were increasingly scrutinizing the family last week. "We decided to take a hard look at the family," the law-enforcement source tells Newsweek.

Salt Lake City police have repeatedly said they have no suspects yet, and that looking at the Smart clan is just "one among many theories," according to Capt. Scott Atkinson, the lead police spokesman.

"The family has been very cooperative," Atkinson says.

Troubling questions remain about how a stranger could have broken into the Smarts' million-dollar home. Some investigators think the screen on the kitchen window where the kidnapper was alleged to have entered was cut from the inside, a sign that the break-in may have been staged. But law-enforcement sources close to the investigation tell Newsweek that they "have no evidence of that."

Nonetheless, investigators are puzzled by how someone could have squeezed through the window, which is tall but not very wide and opens with a crank. "We're not so confident about how he got in," a source tells Newsweek.

--PRNewswire



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elizabethsmart; lakecity; polygraph; tomsmart
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1 posted on 06/16/2002 10:53:07 AM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto
So the father is the ONLY member of the family that passed it cleanly? My my my, how the plot does thicken.
2 posted on 06/16/2002 11:00:30 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
My my my, how the plot does thicken

Doesn't it, though. I'm curious to know how many other family members have been tested.

3 posted on 06/16/2002 11:05:10 AM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto
In and of itself it doesn't mean too much. A good liar can pass a test and a nervous honest man can fail.

I find the part about how the screen in the door was cut to be more interesting.

4 posted on 06/16/2002 11:05:49 AM PDT by newwahoo
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To: newwahoo
They've actually given very few details on it other than it was cut to look like it was done so from the outside, but could have been done from the inside.
5 posted on 06/16/2002 11:09:02 AM PDT by callisto
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To: callisto; all
Sunday's SL Trib and Deseret News articles posted towards the end of this thread:

Here

6 posted on 06/16/2002 11:15:21 AM PDT by hergus
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To: newwahoo
Absolutely. The following is not a hasty condemnation of the dad, but surely on the minds of the investigators... excerpt from long article in Sept 2001 Indiana Observer about SERIAL KILLERS:

"Many serial killers seem incapable of telling the truth. They lie on a minute to minute basis, to everyone, about everything, even when it does not benefit them. Or, it is possible that rather than being liars, serial killers simply don't know fantasy from reality, which might be part of, just part of, their problem. Police investigators have found that some serial killers have a knack for registering "no deception" on polygraph tests when they falsely answer questions. This says something about serial killers. (Or it says something about polygraph tests. Think about it. The most vicious criminals, serial killers, are more likely to pass a lie detector test than are average citizens ?) Interviewing serial killers must be done with skepticism."

7 posted on 06/16/2002 11:19:00 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: callisto
Wouldn't the little sister be able to say if it was the "Uncle?" (Unless in disguise?)
8 posted on 06/16/2002 11:26:04 AM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: callisto; all
Here is the Newsweek article referenced above:

Close to Home

Flummoxed so far, investigators take a harder look at the possibility that there might be a family connection in the kidnapping of 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart

NEWSWEEK
    June 24 issue —  Tom Smart emerged drawn and tired from Salt Lake City police headquarters. He'd just finished a session with investigators probing the disappearance of his niece, 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart, snatched from her bed in the middle of the night June 5 by an armed man in a tan, short-billed cap.

Now investigators were exploring the alibis of family members, including Tom, a 48-year-old photo editor at the Deseret News, the Mormon Church-owned daily paper. Slouched on a bench in the lobby after giving fingerprints and blood samples, Tom pledged full cooperation with investigators. It's all right, "tear me apart" if you have to, as long as it will help solve the mystery, Smart told NEWSWEEK. 

  AS FRUSTRATED POLICE and hordes of volunteers continued to comb Utah's deserts and mountains for Elizabeth and her abductor, investigators turned their attention last week to the missing teen's family in an attempt to shake something—anything—loose. Elizabeth's father, Edward Smart, a real-estate and mortgage broker, submitted to a polygraph test, and, NEWSWEEK has learned, came out clean, according to one well-placed law-enforcement source.

Polygraphs for other members of the prominent Mormon family, including Tom Smart, were "inconclusive," the source said. An inconclusive test hardly means that a person is guilty of a crime—or even of trying to hide something. It indicates only that the subject neither failed nor completely passed the polygraph, an often-inaccurate investigative tool that measures the body's involuntary stress reactions. Officials say they have no plans to give a second test to Tom—whose wife, Heidi, says "he was in bed with me all night" the evening Elizabeth disappeared.      

  Is it possible that the man police are hunting for, seen only by the frightened 9-year-old sister who shared a bedroom with Elizabeth, wasn't some random stranger, but kin? Police were increasingly scrutinizing the extended family last week, even as they launched a frantic search to find and question a mysterious drifter who had attended a candlelight vigil for the missing blond teenager. "We decided to take a hard look at the family," the law-enforcement source said. On Friday teams of FBI agents fanned out to nail down family members' stories, trying to learn where each one was in the hours before and after Elizabeth's disappearance. "It comes down to three things," the source said. "Alibi, alibi, alibi."    

    Focusing on the family is normal in child-abduction cases. And for good reason: in almost half the cases, the kidnapper is a relative, according to one study of 1997 cases. "You want to eliminate or reduce the possibility [that a family member did it] as quickly as possible," says Kenneth Lanning, a retired supervisor in the FBI's Crimes Against Children section. Salt Lake City police have repeatedly said they have no suspects yet, and that looking at the Smart clan is just "one among many theories," according to Capt. Scott Atkinson, the lead police spokesman. "The family has been very cooperative," Atkinson says. Bret Michael Edmunds was seen driving in the Smart's neighborhood nights before the kidnapping

        Investigators' efforts have hardly been limited to grilling the Smarts. By late last week 60 police officers and 40 FBI agents had run down thousands of leads. One involves a 26-year-old homeless drifter named Bret Michael Edmunds, whom police want to question because he was spotted driving slowly in the neighborhood just two mornings before the kidnapping, and later appeared at Elizabeth's vigil. Police stressed that Edmunds, who has outstanding warrants for fraud and assaulting an officer, isn't a suspect: for one thing, he stands 6 feet 2 inches and weighs 235, while the intruder described by Elizabeth's sister is only 5 feet 8.

Nonetheless, the search for Edmunds turned into an all-out manhunt by the end of the week, after boys playing in some cattails in a northern Salt Lake suburb found his discarded license plates. On Friday authorities were certain that they had nabbed Edmunds shoplifting from a department store in the Texas Panhandle, but the fingerprints did not match.

        There are troubling questions about how a stranger could have broken into the Smarts' million-dollar home and known exactly which of the seven bedrooms was Elizabeth's. The Salt Lake Tribune reported Thursday that some investigators now think the screen on the kitchen window where the kidnapper was alleged to have entered was cut from the inside, a sign that the break-in may have been staged. But law-enforcement sources close to the investigation told NEWSWEEK that they "have no evidence of that."

Nonetheless, investigators are puzzled by how someone could have squeezed through the window, which is tall but not very wide and opens with a crank. "We're not so confident about how he got in," a source tells NEWSWEEK.

        It didn't help investigators that the crime scene was polluted before they could even set about their work. Elizabeth's parents apparently had called friends and neighbors to start looking for the girl be-fore they phoned police at 4:01 a.m. By the time investigators arrived, several neighbors were already milling around the Smart house, and others were combing the neighborhood, leaving shoe marks, clothing fibers and fingerprints in their wake.

Securing the crime scene is a problem in a lot of cases, says Lanning, the retired FBI supervisor. In the still-unsolved JonBenet Ramsey case, police were highly criticized for lax handling of the crime scene in the early hours. Says Lanning: "All [investigators] can do is deal with the reality you're dealt." In Elizabeth Smart's case, the sad reality is that investigators haven't been dealt much of a hand at all.

9 posted on 06/16/2002 11:26:16 AM PDT by hergus
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These sleazy little cloth screens, we have now, I can think of a thousand ways a household with six small children at home could cut that six-inch screen from the inside. And not even know it.
10 posted on 06/16/2002 11:27:00 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: Timesink
I said it on a thread 3 days ago...the uncle did this.
11 posted on 06/16/2002 11:27:10 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: callisto
Does it occur to anyone, (given the statements I heard to the effect of "someone who cares for her took her") that perhaps she has been bundled off to marry a polygamist?
12 posted on 06/16/2002 11:27:37 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: hergus
Officials say they have no plans to give a second test to Tom-whose wife, Heidi, says "he was in bed with me all night" the evening Elizabeth disappeared.

All night? Does that mean that Tom was not called about the kidnapping until the following morning? If not, why not?

13 posted on 06/16/2002 11:42:17 AM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
To know he was in bed all night, she would have had to stay awake all night.
14 posted on 06/16/2002 11:53:27 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
"To know he was in bed all night, she would have had to stay awake all night.

Good point. And could the uncle's wife have been one of the "inconlusive" family members given the lie detector test?

15 posted on 06/16/2002 12:04:04 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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To: newwahoo
I find the part about how the screen in the door was cut to be more interesting.

Haven't read everything, but they said window.

16 posted on 06/16/2002 12:11:24 PM PDT by carenot
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To: per loin
All night? Does that mean that Tom was not called about the kidnapping until the following morning? If not, why not?

Good point. But maybe she meant until they called.

But still, why did they call around to neighbors before they called the cops?

17 posted on 06/16/2002 12:18:10 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Grammy
WHAT UTTER CRAP!
18 posted on 06/16/2002 12:25:29 PM PDT by advocate10
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To: Grammy
Does it occur to anyone, (given the statements I heard to the effect of "someone who cares for her took her") that perhaps she has been bundled off to marry a polygamist?

Still doesn't occur to me.

19 posted on 06/16/2002 12:39:28 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: Grammy
...someone who cares for her took her.

I thought it was telling that this kidnapper was thoughtful enough of the girl to wait around while she put on a pair of sneakers.

20 posted on 06/16/2002 1:52:47 PM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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