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Senate Committee Considers UN 'Women's Rights' Treaty (CEDAW)
CNSNews.com ^ | June 13, 2002 | By Jeff Johnson, Congressional Bureau Chief

Posted on 06/15/2002 9:11:34 AM PDT by madfly

Senate Committee Considers
UN 'Women's Rights' Treaty

By Jeff Johnson
CNSNews.com Congressional Bureau Chief
June 13, 2002

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - In the 22 years since its introduction by the United Nations, the "Convention on Elimination of All forms of Discrimination Against Women," or CEDAW, has not been ratified by the U.S. Senate.

Thursday, Democrats controlling the Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing in an attempt to bring the treaty back to the attention of the public and to call for a ratification vote by the full Senate.

Supporters say the U.S. cannot speak to discrimination against women in other parts of the world because it has not signed the treaty.

"If we truly want to be regarded as a world leader and champion of human rights, we must teach by example and ratify CEDAW," Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), who has sponsored several resolutions in the House promoting the treaty, told the committee.

Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), who chaired the hearing, agreed.

"The U.S. should be pushing Afghanistan to abide by the principles contained in the CEDAW treaty," Boxer cited, as an example. "We are speaking to the women of Afghanistan and the women of the world when we act on this treaty."

But opponents say the U.S. is the undisputed world leader in women's and all human rights and does not need a U.N. treaty to prove it.

"Afghanistan was a signatory in 1980 to CEDAW and look what took place there," said Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.). "It's the actions that count. The actions of ours of putting forward troops, putting forward an aggressive effort ... to see that women were involved in the [new Afghan legislature], that women are involved in the Afghan cabinet."

Rep. Jo Ann Davis (R-Va.) opposes CEDAW, not for its goals, but for its implementation by the "Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women," which decides whether or not signatory countries are abiding by the terms of the treaty.

"Although the treaty specifically states that countries shall take measures to suppress trafficking and exploitation of women, the CEDAW Committee has actually called upon China to decriminalize prostitution ... and urged Germany to legitimize prostitution," she noted. "The committee has also criticized a country for the reintroduction of Mothers' Day, arguing that it 'reinforced sexual stereotypes.'"

Sen. Mike Enzi (R-Wyoming), believes the CEDAW treaty would be a good idea, if it actually did what its name implies.

"The title itself promotes the right thing on behalf of women, and I sense that all of us here today share that view," he agreed. "But, ultimately, it's not about the name. What matters for us here is what's inside the convention. We find an assortment of measures, both radical and ill-defined that belie its name."

Enzi says the 22 years that have passed since the U.N.'s introduction of CEDAW are not a reflection of U.S. inaction on the treaty, but of a very deliberate effort by Republicans and Democrats alike to "keep a lid on the Pandora's box."

"It's most admiring signatory countries don't adhere to the letter of CEDAW," Enzi charged, citing the following examples:

The government of China continues to practice forced abortion and sterilization;
- A series of governments in Afghanistan oppressed women until the liberation by U.S. and allied forces;
- The French government refuses unconditional extradition to the U.S. of fugitives convicted of murdering American women and girls;
- Germany will not return abducted American girls to their American parents;
- Iraq has killed its own women and girls with chemical weapons;
- North Korea starves and oppresses its women and girls; and
- In Saudi Arabia, religious police let 14 girls die in a fire rather than allow male rescuers to enter their burning school.

"I don't want the United States' prestige to suffer by association with this group of anti-women rogues," Enzi concluded.

Another concern Enzi shares with opponents to the treaty is its threat to U.S. sovereignty.

"CEDAW would supercede U.S. federal and state law, surrendering American domestic matters to the norm-setting of the international community," he warned.

Kathryn Ogden Balmforth, a civil rights lawyer and former director of the World Family Policy Center at Brigham Young University, agrees.

"One important characteristic of American civil rights law is that it is crafted, legislatively and judicially, to balance society's interest in preventing discrimination with other, equally important, societal interests, such as fundamental First Amendment rights to speech and freedom of religion," she explained. "By contrast, CEDAW - on its face, and ... as it is being interpreted by the CEDAW Committee - is a threat to political freedom, freedom of thought and belief, parental rights, privacy rights, and religious freedom."

She points to the document itself as evidence:

Article One of CEDAW defines discrimination as "any distinction ... on the basis of sex."
Article Two of the treaty requires signatory states to eliminate all discrimination against women, not just by government, but "by any person, organization, or enterprise;"
- Article Five of CEDAW directs governments to "modify the social and cultural patterns of conduct of men and women, with a view to achieving the elimination of ... all ... practices which are based on ... stereotyped roles for men and women."

"In other words, CEDAW requires government to intrude in all areas, no matter how private, consensual, or even sacred, if there is any distinction made on the basis of sex, or if any culture perpetuates 'stereotypes,'" she cautioned. "CEDAW requires the exertion of government power against family, religion, and even thought."

Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.), the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, dismissed the criticisms.

"Within the last decade, the United States has joined multilateral human rights treaties banning torture, promoting civil and political rights, and banning racial discrimination," he recalled. "It's long past time we join the rest of the world dealing with the rights of women with the same fervor."

The Bush administration had expressed its support for the treaty in writing as late as June 4, when it sent a prioritized list of treaties it is seeking action on to the Senate. CEDAW was listed in the third category of priorities under the heading "generally desirable and should be approved," according to Biden.

The Delaware Democrat says that when he contacted the State Department to invite witnesses to Thursday's hearing, he was told that the Justice Department was completing a new review of the treaty and that final administration comment on it was, therefore, not yet available.

"I want to express my disappointment with the manner in which the administration has addressed this treaty. Its cooperation has been far from satisfactory," Biden charged.

"The fact it's reviewing the treaty and the committee's proposed resolution for ratification from 1994, to see if additional conditions should be recommended to the Senate, should be done quickly," Biden said, referring to a provision included in the committee's resolution by Sen. Jessie Helms (R-N.C.) stating that "nothing in the treaty shall be construed to reflect or create any right to abortion."

"I decided to proceed with this hearing today, and to hear from the executive branch when it's fully prepared," Biden explained. "And if it's not fully prepared, to move the treaty, period, with or without their input."



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cedaw; feminists; senatehearing; untreaties; womensrights
"In other words, CEDAW requires government to intrude in all areas, no matter how private, consensual, or even sacred, if there is any distinction made on the basis of sex, or if any culture perpetuates 'stereotypes,'" she cautioned. "CEDAW requires the exertion of government power against family, religion, and even thought."
1 posted on 06/15/2002 9:11:35 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
- The French government refuses unconditional extradition to the U.S. of fugitives convicted of murdering American women and girls;

But it is perfectly permissible for them to not cooperate if the victim is a boy.

2 posted on 06/15/2002 9:15:45 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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3 posted on 06/15/2002 9:15:50 AM PDT by madfly
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4 posted on 06/15/2002 9:16:29 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: madfly
"CEDAW requires the exertion of government power against family, religion, and even thought."

That's right... yet another damfool idea that will probably never die a natural death!

5 posted on 06/15/2002 9:26:26 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: madfly
I'm glad you took note of my quotation. I was not exaggerating.
6 posted on 06/15/2002 9:45:22 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
I'm sure you weren't. Thank you, Ms. Balmforth, for representing those of us who oppose this Treaty. I see you were on the panel at the hearing and that you have extensive experience with this issue.

I read somewhere that Biden made some crack, to those who were against CEDAW, to the effect that, "People also were against signing the Constitution." (something lame and insulting like that). Do you recall what he said? He seems to have stronger loyalties to the United Nations than to our Constitution as he bangs the drum for this Treaty.

7 posted on 06/15/2002 10:17:20 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
Biden was extremely rude to me, and to Christina Hoff Sommers, who is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. I just took that as a sign that he was worried about what the two of us had to say.
8 posted on 06/15/2002 10:19:02 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: madfly
Biden did read the preamble to the Declaration of Independence, and accused Ms. Sommers of being against that, as well. He was a complete a**hole, and completely wrong in what he said, but he wouldn't allow either of us respond. He was, indeed, a bully. And not too smart a bully at that.
9 posted on 06/15/2002 10:21:21 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer
I'm sorry you (and others) had to endure such treatment from this arrogant known plagerizing liar. However, this treaty will not proceed as the forces of right will be unleashed upon all who try.
10 posted on 06/15/2002 10:41:22 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: lady lawyer
It is distressing to hear that. I am enraged. The a$$hole is leading a hearing on the Treatment of Women and is disrespectful to a woman who is not agreeing with him and the feminazi's. I'm glad you had your say. Also I noticed this was NOT on C-Span.
11 posted on 06/15/2002 10:43:12 AM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
bttt
12 posted on 06/15/2002 11:40:08 AM PDT by Fish out of Water
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To: madfly
Stop the attacks by the wacko, extreme left-wing, UN-nazis terrorist's on our Freedoms !!

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

13 posted on 06/15/2002 12:51:33 PM PDT by blackie
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To: madfly;lady lawyer
The a$$hole [Joe Biden] is leading a hearing on the Treatment of Women and is disrespectful to a woman who is not agreeing with him and the feminazi's.

Respect is only for the feminazis and the Demonrat big boyz who keep big government spending and abortion flowing in their direction. Average men and the women who dare to love them can pound sand as far as Bidumb is concerned.

I wish I was shocked.

16 posted on 06/15/2002 3:10:57 PM PDT by Mark Turbo
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To: madfly
Should be front page headline: Senate Foreign Relations Committee, W/ Multiple International Crises Brewing, Defines Roles of Man and Woman. Next week in the Senate: "Re-writing the Bill of Rights, 'property rights' are meanspirited."

With India/Pakistan, Venezuela, Israel/Arafat, N. Korea, Sudan, Vietnam, China, Zimbabwe... and that tiny war on terror w/ the potential mass-murder of millions...the SFRC thinks CEDAW is a priority?

These people are a national security threat. The press is too busy demonizing the administration to cover the increasingly incompetent Senate.

The week of Father's Day they work to further undermine the American family, American sovereignty... and pronounce themselves wiser than God.

Their fraudulent America, America as human rights' abuser and greedy overbearing tyrant is not my America, not the America of our founding, our strength... not the real America of God and family, of our Constitution...of truth.

CEDAW is anti-America, anti-women, anti-men, anti-family, anti-reality....and anti-GOD.

We have people representing us in DC who don't even know the basic facts of life. Help!

17 posted on 06/15/2002 5:15:48 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: madfly
The Senate is considering marrying AMerican women to the UN but certainly not making the UN accountable for funds going to terror groups and nation that enslave and beat women on a regular basis.
18 posted on 06/16/2002 3:16:43 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl, anniegetyourgun, lady lawyer, DoughtyOne, ATOMIC_PUNK
Those headlines ring true. I'm looking to see if there is anything about this in any of the Sunday papers.

I have here an email from Austin Ruse on the hearing. Also an link to a video of it from the Foreign Relations Committee site. FYI.

Live Video of Today's Hearing, "Treaty Doc. 96-53,
The Convention on the Elimination
of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW)"
6/13/02

_______________________________

FRIDAY FAX June 14, 2002

Volume 5, Number 25

US Senate Committee Considers Ratification of CEDAW The Senate Foreign Relations Committee held a hearing yesterday to address whether the United States should ratify the controversial UN women's rights convention, called the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW).

Senator Joseph Biden (D-DE), the chairman of the committee, and Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), organized the hearing in an effort to build support for the Convention, and perhaps to goad the Bush administration into approving its ratification. Biden stated that he was "concerned by the casual attitude of the Executive Branch toward the treaty process and the legitimate requests of this Committee for testimony on a significant treaty pending before it."

Both Boxer and Biden asserted that the current failure to ratify CEDAW damaged US credibility worldwide, and hampered US leadership on broader human rights issues. These sentiments were echoed by the individuals testifying in favor of CEDAW, many of whom called the current US stance an "embarrassment" within the world community.

Addressing concerns that CEDAW would undermine US sovereignty, Biden asserted that "The US Constitution and existing federal laws will satisfy the obligations of the treaty…The United States will not need to enact any new laws." There was also an effort to minimize the influence of the CEDAW compliance committee, which has frequently told states to legalize prostitution and abortion. Boxer admitted that the committee "says some controversial things," but assured the hearing that it "cannot force governments to do anything."

Speaking against CEDAW, former US Permanent Representative to the UN Jeane Kirkpatrick stated that
"it is silly to pretend that ratifying a UN treaty will help women." Instead, "we should share the experiences of American women worldwide."

Congresswoman Jo Ann Davis (R-VA), also testifying against CEDAW, asserted that CEDAW committee recommendations were far from "benign," since they
"exert a great deal of informal pressure upon countries that depend upon United Nations funding of human aid programs." Davis also questioned why the US should seek to make CEDAW the international standard on women's rights, when the CEDAW committee has called for the legalization of prostitution in a number of countries.
"This is simply inexcusable. Prostitution is inherently demeaning and degrading to women, and in no way promotes sexual equality." Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) also stated that the committee's stance on prostitution could impede US efforts to stop sex slavery and the trafficking of women.

Kathryn Balmforth, former director of the World Family Policy Center at Brigham Young University, called CEDAW a
"threat to fundamental freedoms," since it obligates governments to change patterns of behavior by limiting freedom of speech and religion.

The hearing ended on a strange note, with Biden asserting that those opposed to CEDAW would not have signed the Declaration of Independence. BIDEN ALLOWED NO RESPONSE to this charge.
"I have the gavel," he said as he brought the hearing to a close.
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19 posted on 06/16/2002 2:18:20 PM PDT by madfly
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To: madfly
The hearing ended on a strange note, with Biden asserting that those opposed to CEDAW would not have signed the Declaration of Independence. BIDEN ALLOWED NO RESPONSE to this charge. "I have the gavel," he said as he brought the hearing to a close.

Sorry, but these Democrats are out of control. Biden wasn't sure about going after Bin Laden post 9-11 either.

Where's the mainstream press? If a Republican Senator, head of a powerful committee, made a statement like this to a Democrat it would be the week's lead story.

20 posted on 06/16/2002 6:45:17 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl
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