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So, its war, after all
Jewish World Review ^ | june 12, 02 | Michael Kelly

Posted on 06/13/2002 3:03:25 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle

Michael Kelly

So, it's a war, after all

http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | "The FBI is now telling the American people, 'You no longer have to do anything unlawful to get that knock on the door. You can be doing a perfectly legal activity like worshiping or talking in a chat room and they can spy on you anyway.' "

-- Laura Murphy, of the

American Civil Liberties Union,

as quoted in The Post May 30.

Murphy was referring specifically to new rules promulgated by the FBI that will give federal investigators far greater latitude than in the past to monitor -- oh, all right, spy upon -- private conversations in such venues as libraries, Internet sites and religious institutions. But her complaint may be taken beyond its specifics as a fair example of a rising chorus of worry and woe concerning the threat to civil liberties posed by the increasingly hard-nosed security measures being adopted by a nation at war.

We have not heard the last of Ms. Murphy on this subject. There is not much in life that is certain, but one thing we can be sure of is that the creation of a $37 billion, 22-agency, supercolossal Department of Homeland Security will not usher in a new era of civil liberties sensitivity, and that the ACLU will find this objectionable.

As traditional as the cries from the once-again-wounded hearts of once-again-outraged liberals is the governmental response in such circumstances: It isn't so. No liberties are at risk, or not much anyway. All safeguards are being taken. This administration stands second to none in its concern for the sacred rights of all Americans, etc.

The whole thing is ritual. When Attorney General John Ashcroft announced new regulations requiring the fingerprinting and photographing of foreign visitors from all nations deemed to harbor anti-American terrorism, Sen. Ted Kennedy was, of course, "deeply disappointed" in a plan that would "further stigmatize innocent Arab and Muslim visitors." White House press secretary Ari Fleischer was of course quick to assure that President Bush was acting "fully in accordance with protecting civil rights and civil liberties."

Would it be too much to ask that we cut this out? The United States is at war -- its first utterly unavoidable war since World War II and its first war since the Civil War in which the enemy has been able to significantly bring the conflict onto American soil. This war must be successfully prosecuted, and success in war pretty much always requires the violation of civil liberties.

As a generally liberties-minded friend notes, war in itself constitutes the grossest imaginable violation of liberties. In war, the state may choose to say to its citizens: We are exercising our collective right to deprive you of the most fundamental of your individual rights -- your liberty and quite possibly life (don't even mention your pursuit of happiness). We are taking you away, putting you in a uniform, subjecting you to a wholly dictatorial order -- and we are sending you off to very likely die. If you run away, we will ourselves shoot you.

The proper response to complaints such as those voiced by Murphy and Kennedy is: Yes, it is true, this action will indeed hurt or at least insult some innocent people, and we are sorry about that. And this action does represent an infringement of the rights and liberties enjoyed not just by Americans but by visitors to America, and we are sorry about that, too. But we must do everything we can to curtail the ability of the enemy to attack us. This is necessary.

Right now, there sits in a jail cell an American citizen named Abdullah al Muhajir, formerly Jose Padilla. He was arrested at O'Hare International Airport on a sealed warrant after arriving on a flight from Zurich May 8. He is accused, based on what is believed to be credible intelligence, of plotting to explode a radioactive bomb in the United States. He was seized as a material witness and has not been charged with a crime, apparently because the U.S. government does not think it possesses evidence sufficient to charge him. Instead, he is being held as "an enemy combatant," which means the U.S. military can keep him locked up for as long as it wants, with no jury trial. No one outside the government really knows what the evidence is against al Muhajir. The government didn't even reveal his arrest until a scheduled court hearing forced the revelation.

Now, that is what I call a violation of civil liberties. I am sorry about it, and I will be even sorrier in the unlikely event that al Muhajir is innocent and should not have been locked away. And I wouldn't have it any other way.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: internetprivacy; security; surveillance
Yes Michael it is WAR!...WE protect our American citizens from physical harm first and communications is being used as a weapon so we must monitor them...Due process is still in place...I'll worry about my right to be complaining about Income taxes online after the Massari's are no longer training Suiciders. I'm certain my little love notes to Clintoon were dutifully recorded by the Secret Service...I've never felt threatened or interfered with in any way...This is the greatest Nation under GOD and We will PREVAIL against all enemies foreign and domestic...

LETS ROLL!!!

1 posted on 06/13/2002 3:03:25 PM PDT by sleavelessinseattle
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To: sleavelessinseattle
War Powers are in effect... Crying about it won't help.
2 posted on 06/13/2002 3:07:01 PM PDT by SunStar
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3 posted on 06/13/2002 3:10:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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4 posted on 06/13/2002 4:14:32 PM PDT by WIMom
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To: sleavelessinseattle
Great post, Great One! LOL &;-)
5 posted on 06/13/2002 4:34:15 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: MRAR15Guy56
Yes War powers are in effect - without a war vote. Constitutional power is NO LONGER in effect. There'll be a lot more crying in the future, perhaps even you and your fellow Bill of Rights shredders. Too late by then tho. Enjoy it - while you can.

Oh, so you're the all-knowing Constitutional defender?

Have you even read the Joint Resolution Authorizing Military Force? We are in a declared war. Take a second read. Maybe you aren't so all-knowing, and maybe you'll stop to think before accusing others of shredding the Constitution...



September 14, 2001

This is the text of the joint resolution authorizing the use of force against terrorists, adopted by the Senate and the House of Representatives:

To authorize the use of United States armed forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.

Whereas, on Sept. 11, 2001, acts of despicable violence were committed against the United States and its citizens; and

Whereas, such acts render it both necessary and appropriate that the United States exercise its rights to self-defense and to protect United States citizens both at home and abroad, and

Whereas, in light of the threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by these grave acts of violence, and

Whereas, such acts continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States,

Whereas the president has authority under the Constitution to take action to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the United States.

Resolved by the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

Section 1. Short Title

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for Use of Military Force"

Section 2. Authorization for Use of United States Armed Forces

(a) That the president is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements

Specific Statutory Authorization -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

Applicability of Other Requirements -- Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

7 posted on 06/14/2002 9:28:24 AM PDT by SunStar
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