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My own take on this homosexual scandal within the Catholic Church is fairly simple...most of these priests seem to be in their late 60's and 70's...that would mean that they were probably homosexual males born into Catholic families in the 1940's and 1950's who were sent into the priesthood by their families to avoid the scandal of being homosexual...not uncommon at all...any boy not showing an interest in females would have been considered odd...maybe the 'outing' of these homosexually active priests will serve notice on the world that sending someone into the religious life with the hope that they will be 'saved' if kept from the world is a raging error...they just turned on peoples' kids...shame and lust when combined together create a really bad scene...so much suffering...but the Church will endure and be better for it.
51 posted on 06/11/2002 2:51:22 PM PDT by foreshadowed at waco
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To: foreshadowed at waco
".most of these priests seem to be in their late 60's and 70's..."

But it seems that they 'came of age' during the era of sexual revolution and drug culture. These things were widely accepted in society and glorified by the entertainment industry.

'Homosexuality' is not even considered abnormal by the Medical Profession. Government wants to grand extra rights. Sadly the Church did not have the wisdom of the boy scouts (and you see what is happening to them today).

During this era, sin was dumbed-down to the level of the sinner. Sin was not in and is still not. Today we are 'pastoral' and 'can't offend'. The Bishops need to order the modern equivalent of sack cloth and ashes for themselves to restore confidence.

56 posted on 06/11/2002 3:15:25 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: foreshadowed at waco
That's an angle that I hadn't thought of. I'm not Catholic,and for that matter,not particularly religious,so I'm not in a position to talk inteligently about the current scandal. Thanks for bringing that up-it strikes me a good point.
58 posted on 06/11/2002 3:29:01 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: foreshadowed at waco ; ex-snook
All of this does have more than a little to do with the sexual revolution of the 1960s and 1970s as well as the new and aggressive homosexual subculture.
60 posted on 06/11/2002 3:39:22 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: foreshadowed at waco
Knowing "Nightline," they will try to spin it to damage and liberalize the Catholic Church. It won't work. But if they out a homosexual cardinal, which is what I also suspect is in the works, I hope the culprit is forced from office.

The press broke this scandal hoping to liberalize the Church and encourage having married priests and women priests. I'm sure Nightline will play it the same way. Instead, the campaign will backfire and the homosexuals will be dealt a great setback. The Church has been given a great opportunity here to turn things around and reform itself. If the American bishops don't seize this golden opportunity they will deserve to be thrown out of office and replaced by faithful and competent pastors.

61 posted on 06/11/2002 3:48:39 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: foreshadowed at waco
You are probably correct with regards the motivation of a few families and some of the men who became priests themselves. Their families may have been totally unaware of the secret demons besetting their son.

However,a great deal of the perverse behavior is a natural outcome of an organization with a significant number of those who do not believe in God.You see,when man becomes god,he can do anything he thinks is beneficial to himself,the victim or society in general with no remorse. The human mind has an uncanny ability to rationalize behaviors to be compatible with one's desires. And,afterall who knows better than god himself what is best for everybody?

Anyhow the biggest reason this occurred is because the Catholic Church was infiltrated by communists and socialists from the time of the Russian revolution. As the years went by they adopted Gramcian techniques and by the mid fifties all was in order for the takeover. Concomitantly,the Church was gaining great strength in this country after WWII and the take over was not effected as smoothly as anticipated.So what was supposed to occur in the late seventies brewed and simmered until now. For those of you interested in saving Christianity and Western Civilization,there is a lot riding on how this plays out. It is not the time for petty bickering and inter religious nit=picking,it is a time to pray for God's assistance and to work with all of our might to bring the truth ooout and uncover all the secret,corrupt and devilish machinations that have been festering for some time now.

BTWThis has been going on in some form or another since the Fall. It certainly has happened in the Church before but I am just describing the latest unfolding event,the one that is taking place in our lives and time.

70 posted on 06/11/2002 4:12:22 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: foreshadowed at waco
they were probably homosexual males born into Catholic families in the 1940's and 1950's who were sent into the priesthood by their families to avoid the scandal of being homosexual

Interesting theory. You just may have something there. Or maybe those males chose that life on their own. That is my thought about my brother, may he rest in peace.

156 posted on 06/11/2002 10:17:06 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: foreshadowed at waco
most of these priests seem to be in their late 60's and 70's...

This may be an apparent truth; but remember, those adolescent boys who were raped in the '90s are still in shock and still young. Either still teenagers or young adults. They won't come forward for a while.

This problem of ephebophilia has been going on for centuries. Not only in the priesthood, but where ever men are. Think about the bugle-boys and drummer-boys and the cabin-boys of old. These crusty old ba*tards who had them around weren't always generous and kind masters teaching their apprentices the skills of their trade. They were sodomizing and abusing these poor kids. The Greeks and Romans had their boys, and its been happening ever since. It's evil in one of its worst forms!

179 posted on 06/12/2002 3:18:34 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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