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ABC NETWORK RESPONSE REGARDING GAY SHOW: "Get Your Nose Out Of The Bible"!
Fwd: ABC Online Webmaster | 6-11-02 | F16Fighter

Posted on 06/11/2002 9:20:50 AM PDT by F16Fighter

>Subject:Fwd:Fw:ABC TV PROGRAMMING

>I thought all you "minorities" Might be interested.

>Jim

Sent:Friday, April 12, 2002 2:53 PM

>Subject:FW: ABC TV PROGRAMMING

>Jim Neugent is a coach in Childress, Texas. Jim writes:

>My name is Jim Neugent. I wrote to ABC (on-line) concerning a program

>called "THE PRACTICE." In last nights episode, one of the lawyer's

>mothers decided she is gay and wanted her son to go to court and help her

>get a

>marriage license so she could marry her 'partner' I sent the following

>letter to ABC yesterday and really did not expect a reply, but I did get

>one.

>My original message was:

>ABC is obsessed (or should I say abscessed) with thesubject of

homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince

>the world that homosexuality is OK. THE PRACTICE can be a fairly good

>show,

>but last night's program was so typical of your agenda. You picked the

>dufus'

>of the office to be the one who was aginst the idea of his mother being

>gay and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions. This type

>of mentality call people likeme a "gay baser." Read the first chapter

>of

Romans (that's in the Bible) and see what the apostle Paul had to say

>about it....He, God and Jesus were all 'gay bashes'.

>What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel? Is that an alternative?

>lifestyle? (By the way,

>the Bible speaks against that, too.)

>-Jim Neugent

>

Here is ABC's reply from the ABC on-line webmaster:

>

>How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of

>sories compiled by MANY different writers hudreds of years ago) and

>read the declaration of independence (what our nation is built on) where it

>says "All Men are Created equal" - and try treating them that way for a

>change!

>Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book

>of stories as your lame crutch for your your existance. You are in minority in

>this country and your botcott wil not affect us or our freedom of

>statement.

>

>Jim Neugent's second response to ABC:

>Thanks for your reply. From the harsh reply, evidently I hit a nerve.

>I will share it with all whom I come in contat. Hopefully, the

>Arkansas Democrat Newspaper will include it in one of their columns andI

>will be praying for you.

>Jim Neugent

>Note: Wouldn't Satan just love it if people stopped using the Bible

>for a crutch? Please resed this to everyone in your malbox.

>Thanks, Jim Neugent

>

>I wonder if the person from ABC considered how many people would read

this email! This is one we should definitely pass on.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abc; gay; thepractice
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Consider it "passed on" Jim! Do your thing fellow Freepers...
1 posted on 06/11/2002 9:20:52 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Doesn't ABC also "bleep" the word Jesus?
2 posted on 06/11/2002 9:24:40 AM PDT by CFW
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To: F16Fighter
I seriously doubt the authenticity of this e-mail. Have you verified it either with ABC or with the alleged recipient of the insensitive response? If not, I think it's irresponsible to be spreading it around the Internet.
3 posted on 06/11/2002 9:25:58 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: F16Fighter
It's easy to trivialize the engine that has driven western civilization across the ages. Anybody can do it. Even ABC.
4 posted on 06/11/2002 9:27:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: CFW
You are correct...
5 posted on 06/11/2002 9:28:07 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
This is a REALLY old story making the email rounds. The following information is from www.snopes2.com :

Claim: A viewer received an insulting response after sending a complaint to ABC's web site about the TV program 'The Practice.'

Status: True.

Origins: Why this one has reared its ugly head again, a full year after the fact, is beyond our ken. Yes, it's essentially true, but it all took place back in April of 1999, when an Arkansas viewer by the name of Jim Neugent decided to lodge a complaint through an e-mail link on ABC's web site. Mr. Neugent was disgruntled with the 4 April 1999 episode of the ABC TV program 'The Practice' -- which featured a story line involving a lesbian couple who wished to get married -- and wrote to tell them so:

ABC is obsessed (or should I say abscessed) with the subject of homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince the world that homosexuality is ok. THE PRACTICE can be a fairly good show but last night's program was so typical of your agenda. You picked the 'dufus' of the office to be the one who was against the idea of his mother being gay and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions. This type of mentality calls people like me "gay basher". Read the first chapter of Romans (that's in the Bible) and see what the apostle Paul had to say about it. He and God and Jesus were all 'gay bashers.' What if she'd fallen in love with her cocker spaniel is that an alternative lifestyle? (By the way the Bible speaks against that, too.)

Either because Mr. Neugent used the wrong e-mail link (or no other link was readily available), his message was delivered to the webmaster of ABC's site, who took it upon himself to respond to the complaint (in a rather rude form), even though it was clearly outside his area of responsibility:

How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of stories compiled by MANY different writers hundreds of years ago) and read the Declaration of Independence (what our nation is built on) where it says "All Men are Created Equal" - and try treating them that way for a change!? Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book of stories as your crutch for your existence.

Mr. Neugent replied:

Thanks for your reply. Evidently, I hit a nerve from your harsh reply. I will share it with all with whom I come in contact. Hopefully, the Arkansas Democrat Newspaper will include it in one of their columns.

It didn't take long, through the power of the press and the Internet, before Mr. Neugent's message and the ABC webmaster's reply were causing a stir all over the country. ABC, after having investigated the matter, sent Mr. Neugent an official apology:

Dear Mr. Neugent:

We apologize for the e-mail message that was sent to you with comments that reflect neither the view of ABC nor of its executives. Viewer mail is traditionally handled by our Audience Information department for response. Your message was inappropriately handled by a programmer from ABC.com. I want to assure you that the response that you received does not in any way reflect the views of ABC Television, and most importantly is not at all consistent with the manner in which KATV, our valued partner in Little Rock, would ever treat their audience/community members.

Unfortunately, as in any organization, there are bound to be a few individuals that step out of line. To that end, we completed a comprehensive investigation into the matter earlier this afternoon. While the individual was deeply contrite and wanted to apologize to you, we felt that his actions were reprehensible and terminated him immediately.

Specifically in response to your original concerns regarding the subject of homosexuality in our programming, the ABC programming department has tried to treat such subjects in a sensitive manner. We recognize that we are serving a large, diverse audience with a wide range of attitudes towards all types of entertainment programming. We believe that programs thoughtfully reflecting social issues existing in our present society constitute proper television faire. We appreciate your original comments and take serious note of your thoughts on the potential direction of future story lines.

We are glad that you brought the e-mail incident to our attention. We truly regret that this happened, and we hope you understand by our actions that we will not tolerate this kind of behavior from any member of our staff.

Finally, I would like to once again add that the response that you received should in no way be attributed to our partner in Little Rock, KATV. As you well know, KATV has been the news and public affairs leader in Little Rock for years, and will be for many more. A finer, more committed television station does not exist. I would not want their reputation to suffer in any way due to our mishap.

Please accept our apologies and regrets.

Sincerely,

Daren Benzi ABC Television Network

All in all, the whole affair turned out to be much ado about little. Mr. Neugent is as entitled as anyone else to express his opinions and beliefs, and his receipt of an insulting response from ABC's web site when he did so was the product of an overzealous employee's overstepping his authority without authorization, not an expression of official ABC policy. ABC promptly investigated and determined what had occurred, and they then reacted responsibly by terminating the employee responsible and sending an official apology to Mr. Neugent. The only person really at fault here is the anonymous employee who took it upon himself to express his personal opinions as if he were a representative of ABC.

Last updated: 17 April 2000

6 posted on 06/11/2002 9:29:52 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: GovernmentShrinker
This is a true story, but it happened in '99.
7 posted on 06/11/2002 9:30:57 AM PDT by Tree of Liberty
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Verify it with ABC? As though they would ever admit to it?

What can I tell ya -- Ted Koppel probably won't be doing a story about it. Take it for what it's worth.

8 posted on 06/11/2002 9:31:31 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
This is a very old episode. I believe it did actually happend about 3 years ago. I do not know if the email to ABC and their reply is real. I would now consider this email a hoax and an urban legend and ignore it.
9 posted on 06/11/2002 9:31:34 AM PDT by OrangeDaisy
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To: F16Fighter
I find it very hard to accept the authenticity of this e-mail. Even if this were the opinion of those in charge over at ABC...and I don't doubt that it may very well be...I would find it hard to believe that they'd say so publicly.
10 posted on 06/11/2002 9:32:21 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: F16Fighter
The Bible condemns homosexual conduct in several places and is very unambiguous about that. What people miss is that there is great wisdom there (for religious people, God's wisdom). The vast majority of homosexual men are highly promiscuous (often with anonymous partners) and engage in practices including anal intercourse, oral sodomy, the ingestion of feces and urine, sadomasochistic sex, group sex, etc. etc. Statistically, their relationships do not last long at all, and there is very little fidelity to partners among them. Most homosexuals carry a variety of venereal diseases (CCD statitstics). THeir lifespan, on average, in considerably shorter than for hetersexuals. Yes, they have the right to do the depraved things they do. But does anyone really think it brings them, on average, a great deal of happiness in life? I've know quite a few homosexuals, and I find that they tend to live lives of great unhappiness - filled with disease, prone to depression and alcoholism, filled with jealousies among lovers, involved in purely sexual relationships with no commitment, etc. etc. People are finally catching on that the homosexual lifestyle is not only depraved and filthy, but leads to great misery for many. In short, the Bible's wisdom is worth heading, for those who have the wisdom to do so.
11 posted on 06/11/2002 9:33:18 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: ZGuy
Thanks for confirmation of theveracity of the original email and subsequent follow up.
12 posted on 06/11/2002 9:34:13 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
Tree of Liberty has gone to the trouble of verifying this, and discovered that while it did happen, it happened three years ago, and ABC issued a formal apology to Mr. Neugent back then. Do you really think it's appropriate to suggest that Freepers deluge ABC with calls and e-mails about it now? I don't, and this sort of thing damages FR's reputation.
13 posted on 06/11/2002 9:35:49 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: F16Fighter
Sodom and Gomorrah ignored God's Word, too.
14 posted on 06/11/2002 9:35:53 AM PDT by buffyt
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To: OrangeDaisy
Even if it is a "very old episode", of which I was honestly not aware of, it bears repeating.
15 posted on 06/11/2002 9:36:32 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
I guess ABC does not know that the books compiled in the Bible have been judged to be divinely inspired.

What a response -- no more watching anything on ABC for me!

PS. This needs to get to the NewsWatch crew at Fox News Channel. I think their email is:
newswatch@foxnews.com

But you can go to www.foxnews.com and check that out for sure.

16 posted on 06/11/2002 9:39:18 AM PDT by Salvation
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"DID YOU"
17 posted on 06/11/2002 9:39:21 AM PDT by chachacha
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To: F16Fighter
>ABC is obsessed (or should I say abscessed) with thesubject of
homosexuality. I will no longer watch any of your attempts to convince
>the world that homosexuality is OK. THE PRACTICE can be a fairly good
>show,
>but last night's program was so typical of your agenda. You picked the
>dufus'
>of the office to be the one who was aginst the idea of his mother being
>gay and made him look like a whiner because he had convictions. This type
>of mentality call people likeme a "gay baser." Read the first chapter
>of
Romans (that's in the Bible) and see what the apostle Paul had to say
>about it....He, God and Jesus were all 'gay bashes'.

Here is ABC's reply from the ABC on-line webmaster:
>
>How about getting your nose out of the Bible (which is ONLY a book of
>sories compiled by MANY different writers hudreds of years ago) and
>read the declaration of independence (what our nation is built on)where it
>says "All Men are Created equal" - and try treating them that way for a
>change!
>Or better yet, try thinking for yourself and stop using an archaic book
>of stories as your lame crutch for your your existance. You are in minority in
>this country and your botcott wil not affect us or our freedom of
>statement.

Jim Neugent seems to have met his evil astral twin online. Their writing styles are remarkably similar. I'll bet they even look alike. :D

18 posted on 06/11/2002 9:40:48 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: F16Fighter
Best quote, right here.

we felt that his actions were reprehensible and terminated him immediately


*in best Nelson voice*

HAW haw!
19 posted on 06/11/2002 9:41:20 AM PDT by Green Knight
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"This sort of thing damages FR's reputation."

With all due respect, if anything, it might keep ABC on it's toes and remind them that conservatives DO NOT FORGET, while Free Republic is still watching their every move.

Secondly, the media already has deemed FR a bunch of far-right lunatics. Or were you under the impression a Jim Rob or any other Freeper might some day be asked one day to debate on Ted Koppel?

20 posted on 06/11/2002 9:42:55 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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