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'Dirty Bomb' Suspect Not Cooperating, Wolfowitz Says
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| 6/11/2002
Posted on 06/11/2002 7:06:16 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: MississippiMan
"I have no idea how difficult that would be but there is nuclear material around in a lot places." Seems to me he OUGHT to know how difficult it would be. Or if not, he shouldn't let on that he doesn't know. This statement doesn't inspire a heap of confidence.
To: MississippiMan
Puerto Rican descent? I would like to know if he is one of the terrorists that the Toon pardoned before he left office.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:38:01 AM PDT
by
lardog
To: Dog Gone;howlin;rjaynej
Not all of the enemy are terrorists. Some are bleeding-heart leftists who object to the war on terrorism.Quote of the year.
To: Carlucci
just a couple weeks ago a story broke that INS allowed numerous illegals into the country, (I think before 9/11) in order to track who they met. Our fine gov't officials promptly lost them and they are still on the loose. Guess they felt it was too dangerous to let this guy go, plus it helps to have a captured terrorist to keep the pressure on the liberal hand wringing socialists.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:38:38 AM PDT
by
tm61
To: lardog
Someone asked in yesterdays thread if he belonged to FALN.
To: Lazamataz
>Either we forfiet his citizenship FOR him, or we try him for High Treason.Have you -- has everyone -- here gone mad?
We didn't tear up the Constitution for Timothy McVeigh and he actually did a crime! He still got a lawyer and a trial...
If we are going to be so quick to toss aside a citizen's Constitutional rights, then Richard Jewell would be rotting away in some cell right now...
It's unthinkable that a US citizen would be held without a lawyer and without due process. It's DISGUSTING that this is happening with a republican administration.
Today, this guy is turned into a non-citizen for "plotting" terror. Tomorrow, it will be some poor schmuck accused of "plotting" to picket an abortion clinic that gets tossed into a hole a buried.
Just as a reminder, let's look back some 2,000 years. The Apostle Paul was arrested in Jerusalem by anti-Christian activists. He was about to be tortured and possibly killed.
Acs 22:25-29 --
And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said to the centurion who stood by, "Is it lawful for you to scourge a man who is a Roman, and uncondemned?"
When the centurion heard that, he went and told the commander, saying, "Take care what you do, for this man is a Roman."
Then the commander came and said to him, "Tell me, are you a Roman?"
He said, "Yes."
The commander answered, "With a large sum I obtained this citizenship."
And Paul said, "But I was born a citizen."
Then immediately those who were about to examine him withdrew from him; and the commander was also afraid after he found out that he was a Roman, and because he had bound him.
We have achieved a level of political oppression unheard of even in ancient Rome!
This is what America has become. Citizenship has been tossed aside. Today it's this nut case. Tomorrow it might be you or me.
-- KotS
To: BlueLancer
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under the rules of war allows him to be held until the end of the conflict and questioned without an attorney present. " Until the end of the conflict huh? Once he understands that this is a conflict with no end, he'll talk. These people are cowards at their core so he'll talk.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:40:10 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: KissOfTheSith
Fine, then try him for High Treason. If the Feds have got the goods, then he'll hang; if not, then he'll have his fair trial as a American citizen.
This crime -- to plot with Al Qaeda to detonate a 'dirty bomb' -- if true, is certainly High Treason.
To: section9
They had their ways, a week or two standing up with no sleep, he'd be babbling like a baby.
Maybe salt herring for lunch, no water till the next day.
There is torture, and there is Torture.
"Is it safe?, Is it safe?"
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:44:09 AM PDT
by
tet68
To: lardog
Puerto Rican descent? I would like to know if he is one of the terrorists that the Toon pardoned before he left office. No. Too young. If this were 30 or 40 years ago he'd be the type.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:44:37 AM PDT
by
Salman
To: tm61
Being that he is of Puerto Rican heritage and born in the USA, it would be impossible for him or his forbears to be illegal aliens (PRs have been citizens of the USA since 1917).
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:45:32 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: MississippiMan
Did you see the thread last night, comparing the picture of this guy to OK City John Doe #2? The likeness is uncanny.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:47:23 AM PDT
by
Eva
To: KissOfTheSith
"Today, this guy is turned into a non-citizen for "plotting" terror. Tomorrow, it will be some poor schmuck accused of "plotting" to picket an abortion clinic that gets tossed into a hole a buried." Abortion clinic protestors arent a clear and present danger to civilization organized and funded by a foreign paramilitary force that has declared war on us. Your analogy is unthinking. Your judgement is ludicrous.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:47:28 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: That Subliminal Kid
I realize that it's not a poplular opinion here, but I believe that groups like the ACLU actually strengthen our Constitution, democracy and our Country. We are strong because there are many layers of checks and balances in our system of governance. It means that the decisions made by those in power will not stand without being challenged. Many times the challenges will fail, but because they know of the challenges, those who take office may not excercise power without restraint. I think that's a good thing.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:53:25 AM PDT
by
MrMatt
To: Lazamataz
High Treason in Time of War - isn't that a date with Old Sparky?
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:55:31 AM PDT
by
nina0113
To: dubyaismypresident
Bust out the electrodes!LOL,LOL, my thoughts exactly. Fire up OlD Sparky.
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:55:49 AM PDT
by
Teacup
To: Lazamataz
Either we forfiet his citizenship FOR him, or we try him for High Treason. Both must be done in an open court of Law.
To: Eva
I didn't see that thread. Could you provide a link or the title? Thanks in advance. What a spooky thought!
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posted on
06/11/2002 7:58:14 AM PDT
by
Quilla
To: MrMatt
"I believe that groups like the ACLU actually strengthen our Constitution" I respect much of the results of their work. Overall, they may actually be good for the country. And If they spent half as much time standing up for the second amendment as the first in the name of civil liberties, I'd come closer to respect their judgment.
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posted on
06/11/2002 8:00:48 AM PDT
by
elfman2
To: DAnconia55
Both must be done in an open court of Law.Absolutely. Perhaps part of the evidence might need to be kept off the air, since it would compromise HUMINT resources or ELINT techniques, but besides those censored portions, the balance of the trial or proceeding must be public.
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