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Dyed Cash Found Near [Chandra] Levy Site: Bills Found in D.C. Park Believed to Be From Bank Robbery
Washington Post ^ | 6-10-02 | Allan Lengel

Posted on 06/10/2002 7:44:10 PM PDT by Goldi-Lox

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: crystalk
link for composit sketch
61 posted on 06/10/2002 9:32:06 PM PDT by philetus
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To: Goldi-Lox
My brother in law is a cop. Damn hard working man too. But he WORKS for a living, and has been wounded in duty. These boys in DC are as inept as I can imagine.



62 posted on 06/10/2002 9:33:13 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: all
Alicia was murdered March 2, 1996. Her body was found due to buzzards circling on May 7 of that year.

Sofia on Sept 9 of same year. Same area.

Two Lisk sisters murdered May 1, 1997, same modus, same area.

Try Spotsylvania county and Culpeper County wanted listings.

Williams and Winans, aged 24 and 26 and lesbian lovers, were found murdered in their pup tent in the back country of Shenandoah National Park near Luray, Virginia, on June 1, 1996, but it was thought they were murdered in May.

63 posted on 06/10/2002 9:34:29 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg;Fred Mertz;hoosiermama;SarahW;John Jamieson;~Kim4VRWC's~;shattered;Spunky...

****NEW STUFF IN LEVY CASE****

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Sorry I did not want to start a fresh thread for this


From the Washington Post (Tuesday, June 11, 2002)

Two Bones Found in Rock Creek Park

D.C. police search teams yesterday found two small bones in Rock Creek Park that will be examined today to determine whether they are human and whether they belong to Chandra Levy, authorities said.

D.C. Chief Medical Examiner Jonathan L. Arden said police told him that one bone may be from a human ankle. If so, he said, such a bone would be more difficult to link to Levy than, for instance, the tibia bone that he matched to her skeletal structure after private investigators discovered it last week. CLICK HERE FOR THE REST, SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE TO "THE DISTRICT" PARAGRAPH



****Something from the Modbee...****

The link is here, put is fully pasted below.

OPINION: Levy coverage rife with anonymous sources


June 10, 2002 Posted: 10:40:11 AM PDT

By MICHAEL DOYLE

WASHINGTON -- The Chandra Levy story revival reminds readers of the promise and peril of anonymous sources. Sometimes because they're so dangerously accurate, sometimes because they're so damnably wrong.

And always, because they can confound confirmation.

Anonymous sources returned big time with the discovery of Levy's remains May 22, but they've never really gone away. The Washington Post, for one, published 287 stories, columns and other items dealing with Levy in the past year. Of those, 144 relied at least partly on unnamed sources, a NEXIS database search shows.

At the New York Post, anonymous sources were cited in two-thirds of all stories filed by the paper's main Washington reporter covering the Levy case. Such sources have helped periodicals expose major elements of the case. They also can float ideas that are difficult to pin down or are downright acidic.

"I understand the press depends on sources, and they often need to be anonymous," said attorney Abbe Lowell, who formerly represented Rep. Gary Condit, D-Ceres. "But over and over again, we've learned that anonymity provides a level of irresponsibility that can also do harm."

Simply nailing down facts becomes tricky when anonymous sources are at play.

Consider, for one, the pressing question as to whether Condit has testified before a grand jury. Remember: The very nature of Condit's relationship to Levy is itself pegged to anonymous sources, as the 54-year-old congressman steadfastly refuses to confirm or deny reports that he told police he was sexually involved with the 24-year-old intern.

Overseen by two experienced homicide prosecutors, the grand jury is investigating Levy's disappearance 13 months ago as well as associated developments. Forced by House of Representatives rules, Condit made it publicly known through the Congressional Record in November that the grand jury had subpoenaed documents from his office.

Subsequent news accounts relying on anonymous sources elaborated that Condit himself had been subpoenaed to testify before the same grand jury. What happened next depends on which anonymous source you listen to.

The New York Post quoted "sources close to the investigation" as saying Condit went to the prosecutors' office but did not testify. The Washington Post quoted "sources" as saying Condit "appeared before" the grand jury, but that further details could not be learned. The San Francisco Chronicle quoted "sources" as saying "a Washington grand jury questioned Condit."

Federal rules prohibit law enforcement officials and grand jurors from talking about grand jury proceedings. However, witnesses and their lawyers aren't bound by the same restrictions; indeed, rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure explicitly states that "no obligation of secrecy may be imposed" on such people.

Nonetheless, the congressman's attorney declines to clarify the facts about Condit and the grand jury. Instead, in a response to a question from The Bee, attorney Mark Geragos said he's asked for an investigation about anonymous grand jury leaks.

"I think it would be disingenuous for me or duplicitous for me to now start talking about the grand jury material until I get results and an answer as to the grand jury investigation," Geragos said while appearing on the Fox News Channel. "As soon as I get an answer on the investigation, the internal investigation, I'd be happy to talk and reveal anything there."

That may take a very long time, if it happens at all. Investigations of grand jury leaks, while not unheard of, don't happen very often.

Anonymous sources can shape how investigations unfold. Last summer, for instance, two Washington police detectives and their supervisor prepared to sit down with Condit for a second interview. Lowell, who was then Condit's attorney, told supervisor Jack Barrett before the interview started that detectives should assume for the purposes of the interview that Condit had had an intimate relationship with Levy.

Lowell's motive was to avoid having a direct answer to an embarrassing question; an answer that Lowell was convinced would quickly leak out to the press through one of the myriad anonymous sources

And how does The Bee know this? Through an anonymous source.

As it happened, police ended up calling a third interview in part so they could ask Condit the direct question. Literally within minutes of police announcing that they'd held the third interview, news services and television stations were quoting anonymous sources asserting that Condit had told detectives he had a sexual relationship with Levy.

In other cases, anonymous sources cause problems not for those caught up in an investigation, but for those doing the investigating.

For instance, a local Washington television station initially reported a week ago that evidence found with Levy's remains suggested she had been bound. The anonymously sourced report sent police officials into a fury.

"If it is true, the individual who released it should be shot or put in jail," Executive Assistant Police Chief Terrance Gainer told The Washington Post. "That type of specificity could limit our possibility of solving this case and have a negative impact on the prosecution."

But within a day, anonymous sources were being quoted as offering even more elaborate details; as The Post reported, knotted leggings suggested Levy might have been tied up with her own clothes. Because police no longer put any energy into denouncing that particular anonymously sourced assertion, it has become assumed truth.

Thus, citing neither The Post nor anonymous sources, the Houston Chronicle by this week flatly asserted in one story that "knotted leggings were found ... raising speculation that she may have been bound before being killed." Without a named source, it is impossible to verify the details or, at least, verify them in a way that can be double-checked by others.

But in other cases, anonymous sources have steered reporters wrong.

The Washington Times, for instance, cited "a law enforcement source" in reporting a week ago that one of Levy's rings had been found along with her remains. By Wednesday, the paper's attribution had changed from the singular "source" to the plural "sources," but police shot down the observation anyway. No ring was found.

"We did not find a bracelet that she may have worn or her keys, and we have not found the ring," police spokesman Sgt. Joe Gentile said, offering his name up so other reporters could confirm his words.

The mutation of the word source to sources in the Times' stories suggests another journalistic danger: that readers might begin to think that reporters employ the plural term because it sounds better, even though only one source was talking, anonymously.

Doyle is a reporter in The Bee's Washington Bureau.

64 posted on 06/10/2002 9:34:55 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: all;concerned about politics
Thank you for getting that sketch to come up. I hadn't seen it since they threw me off chandralevy.com last August.
65 posted on 06/10/2002 9:42:22 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Goldi-Lox
The DC police reported today that private parties searching the Rock Creek Park area found several human bones, blood-stained clothes, an abandoned automobile, six hand-guns, a knife, two assault rifles, a box cutter, a wallet, a used condom, a "This is Condit Country" campaign flyer, an address book, an envelope of anthrax, Levy's ring and keys, photos, a stack of marked bills, a videotape, a signed confession, and other seemingly important items. However, the police indicated that "these are not clues at this time" and that they "didn't know how these items got here".

In a formal statement to the media, the police said: "Oops! Guess we missed a few things when we searched the area the first couple times for, uh... what was her name again?" When asked about how this reflects on the DC police, a spokeswoman said, "We have not determined what has happened", and that "if a mistake was made, we don't how it happened."

Congressman Gary Condit (D-CA) was also seen in the park yesterday. He was jumping up and down and waving his hands frantically while shouting "over here, I did it, I did it." Eventually he was asked to leave by police community-service personnel. In a televised interview, a police spokesman said, "Mr. Condit, who is not a suspect at this time, was attracting a lot of media attention. He was asked to exit the area for his own personal safety and to preserve the integrity of a possible crime scene." Besides, we can't waste our time babysitting media celebrity has-beens when we're looking for donuts uh, ... a killer."
66 posted on 06/10/2002 9:42:35 PM PDT by My Identity
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To: crystalk
Williams and Winans, aged 24 and 26 and lesbian lovers, were found murdered in their pup tent in the back country of Shenandoah National Park near Luray, Virginia,

The same place the McDonalds phone was when he called Ann Marie Smith saying he may need help but later called her back and said he took care of the "problem."
Condit goes there for some reason.

Anybody know what Condits mother looks like?

67 posted on 06/10/2002 9:43:34 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: crystalk
Williams and Winans, aged 24 and 26 and lesbian lovers, were found murdered in their pup tent in the back country of Shenandoah National Park near Luray, Virginia,

The same place the McDonalds phone was when he called Ann Marie Smith saying he may need help but later called her back and said he took care of the "problem."
Condit goes there for some reason.

Anybody know what Condits mother looked like?

68 posted on 06/10/2002 9:43:44 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: all
I wonder if the missing ring, which is seen on Chandra's right ring finger in some photos, and thus cannot be a "pinky" ring, might have been worn on her toe on occasion and thus been a little "piggy" ring.

Or did someone else, maybe a man, wear it on his pinky?

69 posted on 06/10/2002 9:47:18 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
might have been worn on her toe on occasion and thus been a little "piggy" ring.

You lost me. What does her toe have to do with it?

70 posted on 06/10/2002 9:49:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
Is she still living? Her husband, Adrian Condit, is still alive, and helped move boxes after so much was shipped from Condit's office and apt in DC to Calif last May to July.

It is reported that on the same days (may 17 ff) when Condit, who has one of the best attendance records in Congress...finally missed several votes in 2001, that Congressman Lucas, from Condit's old home district in Oklahoma, was also absent same votes.

It is also said that Lucas has a daughter, Sandra, who has sometimes worked on Condit staff in Modesto, and who has also sometimes lived in an apt in a house adjacent to Evergreen Cemetery in Luray, Virginia, some 6 blocks south of the McDonalds on East Main.

71 posted on 06/10/2002 9:53:50 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: concerned about politics
Look at the eyebrow and jaw lines, and at the $200 haircut pulled down over to disguise...

Not everybody in rural Virginia driving a black small Toyota pickup can afford to dress like this.

72 posted on 06/10/2002 9:56:48 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: concerned about politics
They found her fingers, but haven't yet found her toes?
73 posted on 06/10/2002 9:57:51 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Why did they throw you off ChandraLevy.com ? (ps... I hate the place and how the guy is profiting off the cases and off the people by charging people a fee to get in to post and to read the postings... I don't expect the place will be around much longer)
74 posted on 06/10/2002 9:59:23 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: all
It is thought in the Valley that the Condit name was first established in the USA there...and there are still Condits in the phone books in Page and Shenandoah Counties.
75 posted on 06/10/2002 9:59:32 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: crystalk
Geeez. Where there's a woman murdered, there's Condit!
76 posted on 06/10/2002 10:04:59 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: dalebert
Much on this thread probably of interest to you.
77 posted on 06/10/2002 10:08:31 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: Goldi-Lox
The article says the bank robbery was last week, so obviously Chandra had already been found.
Nevertheless, this park doesn't sound like a very good place to visit to me.
78 posted on 06/10/2002 10:11:39 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: crystalk
That scetch was drawn in 1996. Add 6 years to that sketch.....

79 posted on 06/10/2002 10:19:48 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: concerned about politics
Another look....

80 posted on 06/10/2002 10:22:03 PM PDT by concerned about politics
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