The REAL myrddin.....
AGYG <----ducking now!
Posted on 06/08/2002 2:20:45 PM PDT by ladybast
Good news. Your (I'm assuming you're a pilot) first demand should be that Mineta fire McGaw and that W fire Mineta.
Pilots I know are NOT for arming. Only ALPA and we know how they treat the airlines. You can trace allot of problems within airlines back to them.
OK...
If you are going to be reflexivly anti-union, please go through the trouble to verify your facts first, letst you come off as a moron.
Over 75% of pilots of all unions (all major airline pilots are unionized) are strongly in favor of arming pilots. The Allied Pilots Association (AA's union) was the first and the most vocal. ALPA's pilots (United, Delta, Northwest, US Airways, most of the regionals, etc) favor arming by the same percentages in all carriers. ALPA National originally opposed the idea at the behest of their Democrat handlers, but the groundswell changed that, and now ALPA fully supports the idea of arming pilots.
It is the ATA (the lobbying organization for all the airlines and their managements) that opposes this.
Now, about problems with the airlines, and the unions being at the source...
What do you reference as a problem? Is it the fact that almost every safety related item was the result of the unions pushing for them? Management has been dragged kicking and screaming at every turn with regard to safety. Read the front page of the 5/12 Dallas Morning News (no friend of unions). The latest battle is where the ATA wants pilots to be on duty for an indeterminite amount of time, with some being forced to be awake in excess of 24 hours with no relief. The Federal Aviation Regs state that a pilot's maximum day is 16 hours, which is the position of every union. The ATA says that as long as they schedule a pilot's day to be 15:59, they can fly him in excess if he is delayed. This delay has no limits (according to the ATA). They just got smacked by the FAA for this. Many believe the AA crash of 6/1/99
Please cite for me where the problems are. Do you think the arilines should be able to unilaterally change their contracts, or should they abide by them.
Do you support airlines getting from the government what they can not get at the bargaining table? Why or why not?
Never happen. The airlines would just go out and hire hungry pilots from the regionals.
No one, NO ONE, has ever broken a pilot union. If a carrier needed to hire scabs, they would go bankrupt before they ever got a plane off the ground.
The largest carrier in the entire world, has the largest training facility in the entire world. With that, they can train about 200 pilots every six weeks (assuming they are competant pilots). They need about 10000 pilots to run the airline, if it ran according to their rules. That would take about 300 weeks to train that many pilots. Given that they would go bankrupt in about 10 weeks, what makes you think they would even try? Where are United, American, Delta, Northwest, Continental, US Airways, and Southwest going to find the 60000 pilots to fill their slots? There are not that many, unless you go to the Mid_east for pilots.
This is why pilots have the leverage they do during contract talks. Management knows that they need us more than we need them. It's a fact of life. Sorry, it is so.
This pilot actively demonstrates to me the NECESSITY of pilots having a gun as a last line of defence. I am sorry he got charged. Some laws are bad laws. Not allowing pilots to carry is one.
BTTT
10-4. If any penalty is applied to this pilot there will be a big backlash from both pilots and the flying public IMHO.
You can hunt all kinds of stuff with a .44 magnum....
I guess my time in Aviation is my reference.
What pilots are you talking to? C-152 pilots out for their weekend thrill? Your post shows you know little, if any, about pilot issues.
RedBloodedAmerican, you're an asshole, devoid of any intellect! Go crawl back into Dassholes' jockstrap.
Hope I offended someone!...............FRegards
The REAL myrddin.....
AGYG <----ducking now!
If this guy gets convicted/fined/jailed the ALPA union should strike. Shut the country's skies down for a week or two and get Congress off their collective asses to arm the pilots.
Guys used to bring their big toys to the range I worked at in San Diego -- see who could make the loudest noise, largest muzzle blast, etc. -- such hand cannons as the .44 Mag and .50 A&E Desert Eagles, .454 Casul, 30-30 Contender, etc.
The .454 Casul is a show stopper -- more energy at 100 yards than the .357 Mag has at the muzzle. My hands are too small for me to shoot it comfortably, but the three shots I managed were about as much fun as I have ever had with a hand cannon! I am reminded that at full recoil (shooting off hand) the hammer spur is only inches away from the shooter's forehead!
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