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To: Junior
Monkeys have opposable thumbs, and I have yet to see one who was capable of using (let along creating) a 30.06 rifle to shoot bananas out of a tree.

Maybe humans can't create a real spider web to catch deer, but if you saw what they are using to thin the deer herds in parts of New Jersey you'd have to admit we make a pretty good imitation.

136 posted on 06/07/2002 2:38:34 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
You missed the point of the panda's thumb example. It's a structure that's not well suited for its function. That's not something the theory of intelligent design entails is more probable than not. It does share a non-functional similarity in structure to the the thumbs of other mammals, including humans. That is something that a theory of common origin entails is more probable than not. I'm thinking Bayesianism is getting crowed out of Alberta's schools to make room for all publically funded religious education Alberta is famous for.
140 posted on 06/07/2002 2:42:45 PM PDT by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Alberta's Child
Monkeys have opposable thumbs, and I have yet to see one who was capable of using (let along creating) a 30.06 rifle to shoot bananas out of a tree.

Monkeys and apes have been known to use tools -- a rifle is simply a much more complex tool. Lower animals also use tools: sea otters use rocks as hammers and anvils to crack oyster shells, some birds fashion [1] twigs to dig out insects from trees, etc.

[1] The word "fashion" was used on purpose. Not only do they select the stick for the function, they also modify the stick to more closely suit their needs.

146 posted on 06/07/2002 2:49:28 PM PDT by Junior
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