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Damon Van Dam Testifies Tearfully, Fends Off Lifestyle Attack:Day 3 of Westerfield Trial
CourtTV ^ | June 6, 2002 | CourtTV

Posted on 06/05/2002 11:36:24 PM PDT by FresnoDA

DAY 3: Westerfield On Trial



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: vandam; westerfield
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To: FresnoDA
Nothing like a sing along thanks Fres!
721 posted on 06/06/2002 6:52:53 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: BunnySlippers
In my greatest attempt at civility, I will explain my perspective.

I am perfectly willing to understand those that are already convinced of DW's guilt.

Likewise, I am one and therefore understand others, that want more and better evidence before convicting a man to die.

I am (and I think most others are as well) open to the idea of Westerfield's guilt. That may ultimately be proven to my satisfaction.

However, the problem for me goes back to the beginning. There were just way too many creepy characters in and around Danielle's life and home. They should have been very closely looked at, yet it appears they weren't.

Because we know that corruption exists in high places (see Heidi Fleiss) there is the potential for plenty of looking-the-other-way when it comes to sex-related secrets.

Compare Westerfield's history to the van Dam's lifestyle and realize that a lot of people think the suspicion turned from the parents & friends a little too quickly.

We all know that frame-ups have occurred or there would be no such term understood by us all. This case has all the POTENTIAL makings of the finger of blame being pointed at the wrong person.

That's why so very many people, who are usually on the side of the prosecution (such as myself), find themselves in the extraordinary position of listening to and fairly analyzing what the defense has to offer.

In short, there are quite a few people that believe that the ugly and risky activities of the van Dams may be what killed their child.......directly or indirectly. Either way, ALL of the truth needs to be told.

722 posted on 06/06/2002 6:53:23 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: RnMomof7
Give up. : )
723 posted on 06/06/2002 6:53:48 PM PDT by Politicalmom
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
That's why a BUNCH of people not on the defense side quit posting in march..I still have the emails..

I don't know who the folks are on either side, but Kim, you can add me as a possible to the prosecution side. This is ridiculous. Basically, tonight, I've had 2 people call me a pompous jerk (I'm paraphrasing), and zero object to that characterization. Some would say that means I AM a pompous jerk. I would like to think it means it's only a signal that I need to get the hell out of here. But it's a balancing test. Do I go and get rid of the aggravation, or stay because staying will annoy 2 people so much?! I'm so conflicted! ROTFLMAO!

724 posted on 06/06/2002 6:55:25 PM PDT by Amore
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To: FresnoDA
NUT
725 posted on 06/06/2002 6:55:37 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: sbnsd
I just didn't want to see everyone fight over misunderstandings and accusations when we all have at least one common interest. That's what we should be discussing.

I agree.Whatever happened to just discussing the TRIAL?? All this bickering is bull***t!! Time to find a new site where people can discuss events and not act like children!

Have fun ridiculing each other,I'm outta here!!!!

726 posted on 06/06/2002 6:57:25 PM PDT by justkillingtime
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To: BunnySlippers
Bunny... I have the feeling that there are plausible explantions for Westerfield being innocent. Just comes from my own personal experience of being a mom of four active and lively kids who could easily have gotten into a neighbor's RV, and left evidence there...

I remember reading early on that Danielle bit her fingernails, and how many 7 year olds scratch mosquito bites,etc..., never mind dog scratches that do not bleed at first, but then scab over and are ripe for "picking", and consquent bleeding...

Even if her hair, and her blood were found in DW's RV would not convince me "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he did her in, given the fact that he was a close neighbor, and that his RV was an "attractive nuisance"...

Too much experience with four scabby kids, nose-pickers, nail-biters, etc... And, by the way, they are all grown up now, raising the next generation, and would no longer would admit publically, at least, to ever having been nose-pickers or nail-biters, never mind bed-wetters!

For whatever it is worth!

727 posted on 06/06/2002 6:57:48 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: RnMomof7
There's an example of confusion..WHERE did I defend ANYTHING? analyzing does not equate, therefore your statement does not compute
728 posted on 06/06/2002 6:58:00 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Jaded
Brenda's "Hi Dave" remark from the PH

I have seen you make this comment before. Are you asserting that Brenda said "Hi Dave" at the PH to Westerfield? Because if you are I'd like to see some documentation. I watched the PH and shortly thereafter saw someone post a rumor from another board that Brenda did this. Perhaps that is where you picked up this mistaken notion?

729 posted on 06/06/2002 6:58:24 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Politicalmom
Yea
730 posted on 06/06/2002 6:58:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: BunnySlippers
Can't a person be "against the Van Dams" for their hideous lifestyle (as I am) and be kinda convinced by the forensic evidence to (at this point in time) be in favor of Westerfield being convicted? There seems to be a feeling that if you think Westerfield is guilty then you must be approving of swinging. Nothing could be further from the truth.

exactly!!! What I've been saying..wish more would say it..cuz that's the truth.

731 posted on 06/06/2002 7:02:08 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: All
Gee you guys! Can we all stick to the trial here and stop this stupid, childish, bickering?? It is really annoying to read this thread through and have it peppered with:

"Stop attacking me!"
"No YOU stop attacking me!"

It's getting very tiring. We have another two or three months of this!!! On Monday, can we be at least a bit civil?

Thanks,
Me

732 posted on 06/06/2002 7:02:44 PM PDT by It's me
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim you continually minimize the behavior of the parents..I do not understand how you can do it.....swamping sex partners and and drug use are treated like a joke

These are serious issues that have most likely played a role in the death of a child.

I do not know if DW did it..I have honest doubts..

If he did I want him hung...but one way or the other the parents are amoral pond scumb. They do not deserve one word of support IMHO

733 posted on 06/06/2002 7:03:08 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Anyone know if the defense can call Rich and/or Keith to the stand, because the prosecution sure as hell won't?
734 posted on 06/06/2002 7:03:44 PM PDT by demsux
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To: Amore
Stick around!
735 posted on 06/06/2002 7:05:49 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Amore
Do you remember where I stood not so long ago...? remember what we shared in freepmail? I think the truth has came out and in more ways than one.
736 posted on 06/06/2002 7:06:45 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Good post!
737 posted on 06/06/2002 7:06:49 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: RnMomof7
I appreciate you not making this person btw..thank you. By analyzing it doesn't minimize the severity of what they did. The defense is claiming sex party, brenda said it wasn't. I analyzed it...took it apart and created a scenario without emotional laden words.
738 posted on 06/06/2002 7:12:27 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: demsux
the defense can call anyone they can serve a subpoena on or will show up without one...the person can try and quash the subpoena but short of being POTUS or some judge if they have relevant information, they will have to show up...they could of course take the fifth and refuse to testify..
739 posted on 06/06/2002 7:13:44 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: demsux
Anyone know if the defense can call Rich and/or Keith to the stand, because the prosecution sure as hell won't?

Absolutely! You can bet, they will be heard from. And I look forward to what Keith and Rich might have to say.

There is much that we have yet to hear. Remember, this trial is expected to last three months

740 posted on 06/06/2002 7:15:30 PM PDT by theirjustdue
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