[Commie Basher]

And your point is?

[Ff--150]

Ping!
Short and sweet...

[Illbay]

Okay: Show of hands. How many here on FR are "Yankees"?

If so, what do you think about the fact that folks like TexConfederate1861, Shuckmaster, Twodees and other "neo-Confederates" hate your guts, and think you are the epitome of evil?

In other words, "Ronald Reagan bad, Bill Clinton good."

That's how these stupid, silly people think.

Sheesh.

[Lexington Green]

guess Ruffin would support the 9-11 attack

[Illbay]

"I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Israeli rule -- to all political, social and business connection with the Israelis and to the Jewish race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Palestinian and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in outraged and downtrodden Palestine, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Israeli usurpation, oppression and atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Palestinian people!

..And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Israeli rule--to all political, social and business connections with Israel, and the perfidious, malignant and vile Jewish race."

--Yasser Arafat, 2002

[pittsburgh gop guy]

"DIE REBEL SCUM!"

Don't know who said it, but I like it.

I think the rebs here on FR come out once a week, blow their horn and then retreat for another week. The South is dead - and will NEVER rise again! Get over it. There are more Yankees down there now than Sherman could have ever imagined.

[Pharmboy]

I guess you're Red Sox fans...

[TheDon]

Don't hold anything back Edmund, tell us how you really feel!

[Pharmboy]

And, in a related story...

[sphinx]

Sore loser, wasn't he?

Ruffin was the kind of slavery perpetualist that tarnishes the memory of the South. His kind would have lost out even without the war, probably within a generation, probably through compensated emancipation. I wonder if he would still have been bitter.

[verity]

Is he related to Fritz Hollings? :~)

[MissouriForBush]

As a "border-state" Missourian with Southern heritage, I am dismayed by some of the posts I see here. I think that most Southerners decry all the "political correctness" today that tries to lump anything Southern or Confederate into the "extremist" or "reactionary" category. They know that the South is much more than Bill Clinton or any stereotypical Southern movie or TV character "crafted" out in Hollywood. The real South is about faith, family and strong ties to the land. And I daresay that the average Confederate soldier was fighting foremost to protect his family and defend his land. For me, the South means wonderful grandparents with integrity and humility; quilts being handed down in the family all the way from Virginia or North Carolina -- then through Tennessee and Kentucky -- before being gently draped on the edge of a family bed or rocking chair in Missouri; eating Oyster Dressing (from a several-hundred-year-old family recipe brought from Virginia) at Thanksgiving Dinner; and having Sunday dinner after church at my Grandmother's with lots of relatives gathered around several tables -- some makeshift -- to sample some of the best fried chicken in the world -- but always preceded by my Grandfather's saying of the blessing. I could go on and on, but I will rest my case here.

[Lurking Libertarian]

vengeance for the now ruined, subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

So being enslaved is a good thing only when it happens to someone else, I see.

[Twodees]

Ruffin was regarded as a nutjob by his contemporaries. His suicide simply proved them right. Hatred is not the basis for Southern pride and love for our states, it's a mental disease that becomes more destructive and never ends in any positive outcome.

If those are truly his last words, then they are ravings of an insane man about to shoot himself in the head. Why treasure them?

[shuckmaster]

Abraham Lincoln's Private Porn Collection Found!

[wtc911]

Is this guy some distant ancestor of the great David Ruffin of Detroit? A late night visit to keep himself warm maybe?

[Protect the Bill of Rights]

Sadly, Edmund Ruffin is narrowly defined in terms of the War and Slavery.
From:   http://www.saveourriver.org/sys-tmpl/historicresourcesatriskpage3/
 

The decline of the town [Newcastle] gave way to the rise of agriculture in the area. In  1843 my great-great-great grandfather, Edmund Ruffin, acquired Marlbourne, part of which is within the boundaries of present-day Newcastle Farm. The man who became, according to historian Avery Craven, "the father of soil chemistry in America" (see: Edmund Ruffin, Southerner) made his home adjacent to what had been the town. At Marlbourne, Ruffin carried on many of his famous experiments, which were the first in North America to articulate practices of crop rotation and fertilizer use in order to prevent depleted soil from becoming too acidic to support healthy plant growth. The silt of the Pamunkey River, which had precluded growth of the town, provided Ruffin with a rich agricultural resource to be spread upon his fields. His grave lies less than two miles from what had been the colonial town.

The above was written by Henry Ruffin Broaddus.He is involved in a legal fight over land seized by the county to build a Waste Treatment Plant on part of Marlbourne.  His fight is but one more notch on the bedpost for those who are bound and determined to obliterate remnants of the early history of that area.  Cemeteries have been plowed under by developers with no clear title to the land in the name of progress.  The sites of Civil War battles were always easy to find because the earthworks had not yet been plowed under.  Patrick Henry grew up in the area.  Powhatan is buried next to the river just below the proposed Waste Treatment Plant.  George Washington married Martha not very far down the road.

However, since most of America can only see the slavery issue, we are losing the history of an area that nutured our forefather's love of freedom.  It is a very precious freedom that we are in danger of losing.

[babaloo999]

Thread not pulled yet? Amazing.

[Comus]

What he said.