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Somalis find a new home, new struggles in Minnesota
Baltimore Sun ^ | June 2, 2002 | Scott Calvert

Posted on 06/02/2002 7:31:54 AM PDT by sarcasm

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: sarcasm
There are 300,000,000 people in India decendents of the "untouchable" class. They are totally uneducated, pagans, the poorest of the poor and furthermore unhygenic. They will do the jobs no American will do and for next to nothing too boot.

In other words, the perfect American immigrant.

Why am I not allowed to pull some old oil supertankers out of storage, fill them to the brim with untouchables, charge them $1,500 passage (a significant percentage could raise $1,500) and start bringing them to the US? After all, they share our values,

21 posted on 06/02/2002 9:35:07 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: sarcasm
To complain about the police in Minnesota is hilarious they must have one of the most liberal PD's in the USA.

The point is how would the Police or local Thugs of the Month handle any of those situations in Africa?. More people loose their lives shopping in any big city in most of Africa.

All those "do good" groups bringing in large numbers of one group which then out number homegrown groups of needy Americans, sounds like a recipe for by God trouble to me.

What happens when more people are on the dole than work?

22 posted on 06/02/2002 10:27:53 AM PDT by Judai
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The State Department, meanwhile, stopped letting in refugees from Somalia and elsewhere because it wanted new security checks. "We have to be very aware of who's coming into the U.S.," said Dan Kane, spokesman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

I told you I would ping you when I found these little clues. Here is your first ping.

I have repeatedly been told that the INS and the State Department are continuing to let these people into the country. Apparently this is not correct.

23 posted on 06/02/2002 10:34:47 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: johniegrad
You should have asked this young lady to stay at your house. It would be the right thing to do.
24 posted on 06/02/2002 10:40:12 AM PDT by AshleyMontagu
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I told you I would ping you when I found these little clues. Here is your first ping.

I have repeatedly been told that the INS and the State Department are continuing to let these people into the country. Apparently this is not correct.

While this appears to be a good sign, there have been millions of Illegal border crossings through Mexico since 9/11 (that estimate is based on almost 800,000 apprehensions. See thread here.).

Since Mexico has always been chummy with Castro, how difficult do you think it would be to launder a terrorist through Cuba and then send him north through Mexico?

Keep in mind the 9/11-Boijinka conspirators who were apprehended in Texas on an Amtrak train trying to make their way to Mexico, with their box-cutters still on them.




25 posted on 06/02/2002 10:47:35 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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I am not talking about the Mexican situation. When I have information on that I will flag you to it. I have been told SPECIFICALLY that we are still allowing floods of people from terrorist nations. That SPECIFIC charge is what I am refuting with this post.

I am going to ping you on any of these small clues on the immigration situation.

26 posted on 06/02/2002 10:52:26 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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I believe it was said that immigration had slowed to a trickle. One man's trickle is another's torrent.
27 posted on 06/02/2002 10:52:51 AM PDT by Judai
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To: sarcasm
I suppose it's not been a quiet week in Lake Woebegon then. ;)

Seriously, it's nice to know you have a similar problem to what we have in the UK. Socialist local governments here in Britain took in Somali refugees. Recently, in my part of London, Fulham, the council built some lovely townhouses, complete with appliances and wooden floors. They put Somali refugees in them. They ripped up the floor so they could burn a campfire in the middle of the living room, and sold off all the valuable appliances and piping in the houses. Then they were moved to new accomodation that wasn't busted up.

Meanwhile, these people also objected to "Blackhawk Down". Well sod them, that was an accurate portrayal. America sent troops to feed them, Britain and America sent food and money, we both let their refugees in and housed them, and they are complaining about Blackhawk Down and some restrictions because of the War on Terror? The next time they starve due to their inability to organise themselves, LET THEM DIE.

Regards, Ivan

28 posted on 06/02/2002 11:00:16 AM PDT by MadIvan
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I am going to ping you on any of these small clues on the immigration situation.

Please do, but let's put the potential wigglewords in bold:

The State Department, meanwhile, stopped letting in refugees from Somalia and elsewhere because it wanted new security checks. "We have to be very aware of who's coming into the U.S.," said Dan Kane, spokesman at the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

1. What about students and other non-refugees?

2. What does "and elsewhere" mean? Does that include Saudi Arabia? Pakistan? Iraq? Algeria? Syria? Yemen? Indonesia? Egypt?

I am not talking about the Mexican situation. When I have information on that I will flag you to it.

Yeah, because that is the elephant, isn't it?

Hands down, the easiest way for terrorists and potential WMDs to get into America is across the Mexican border.

Any "crack-down" that ignores this is window-dressing, and the Bush Administration has exhibited considerable inaction in this regard.




29 posted on 06/02/2002 11:06:11 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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