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To: lasereye
The problem is you are talking to libertarians. The Libertarian's social agenda mimics that of the Democrats except for the Gun issue.

Libertarians are EXTREMELY Liberal when it comes to things like drugs, alcohol, sex outside of wedlock, homosexuality, prostitution, gambling, abortion, Family values, ect...

They like democrats getting elected because democrats getting elected furthers their social agenda.

112 posted on 06/03/2002 8:30:50 AM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
Libertarians are EXTREMELY Liberal when it comes to things like drugs, alcohol, sex outside of wedlock, homosexuality, prostitution, gambling, abortion, Family values, ect...

Look I'm so conservative, I think Jesse Helms is a little bit liberal. Seriously, vote in Giddy Dolt and win back the Senate. With the RINOs in office, I'm not so sure some of Bush's more conservative judges would have a chance on the floor. I cannot seriously believe that NC is going to have two Senators at the same time that are so liberal. Giddy is pro-choice, anti-gun, and for government subsidies of tobacco. You call that good? Why not push for government to get off the tobacco growers backs as Bush promised in his campaign that he would. Never heard another word about it

113 posted on 06/03/2002 8:36:57 AM PDT by billbears
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To: FF578
You make a major mistake when you lump all Libertarians with the stands of a party by that name in some localities. The Founding Fathers were Libertrarians, and they hardly favored toleration for Homosexuality or Abortion.

There is no dichotomy between Libertarians--correctly understood--and traditional American Conservatives. They may differ on some issues--indeed every shade of opinion, has differences within its own shade--but on the vital interests, we are on the same side. This is particularly true at the Federal level, where almost all Libertarians believe in the strictly limited Government of the Constitution, which is the bedrock of mainstream American Conservatism. There is no more vital Conservative principle than that which requires that the sacred oath of public office be adhered to. And the doubts as to Mrs. Dole's suitability for the U.S. Senate, include very serious doubts as to her commitment to the Constitution. (She is no Jesse Helms with a skirt!)

It is, of course, not my business who represents the great State of North Carolina in the U.S. Senate. Naturally, I am a very curious bystander. Naturally, I would hope that the State picks someone who will be a great force for principles that I hold sacred. In this regard, it would be better, if possible, that a younger candidate than Mrs. Dole be found, unless she were clearly the most coherent Conservative voice in the race, which I know that she is not.

But, again, the Senator must serve North Carolina, not Ohio. So I, as a good American, must affirm her right to make that choice for herself.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

117 posted on 06/03/2002 9:02:40 AM PDT by Ohioan
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