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Texas History Gets New Mexican Twist
Fox News ^ | May 29, 2002 | Douglas Kennedy

Posted on 05/29/2002 3:11:32 PM PDT by JuanAntonio

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:33:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: JuanAntonio

SNAPSHOT 2001 State Totals Item Definitions

Summary Level
All
Charters
State of Texas
(excl. Charters)
State of Texas
(incl. Charters)

Total Number of Districts/Charters
159 1,040 1,199

2. Total Number of Schools
201 7,318 7,519

STUDENTS
 
3. Total Students
37,978 4,021,641 4,059,619
4. % African American
41 14 14
5. % Hispanic
37 41 41
6. % White
20 42 42
7. % Other
2 3 3

21 posted on 05/29/2002 3:41:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: Endeavor
It's about damn time "immigrants" started seeing themselves as Americans...

That sounded so good, I had to hear it again!

I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could.

22 posted on 05/29/2002 3:43:48 PM PDT by scan58
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To: chookter
Hey, I learned in my chauvinistic Colorado history that a Colorado regiment won the Battle of Glorietta Pass!

BTW, I thought the Mexicans disliked Santa Anna almost as much as the Texans. So how would teaching this history make Mexicans feel bad?

23 posted on 05/29/2002 3:44:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: philetus
Bunker Hill was just a little misunderstanding between the colonists and the British. Both sides wanted to use the spot as a picnic area. Unfortunately, a conflict evolved, an NOONE wanted an argument, so the colonists left to find another place, graciously ceding the hill to the Redcoats. Same thing happened at First Manassas, but the Confederates told the Yankees to find their own damn spot!
24 posted on 05/29/2002 3:44:32 PM PDT by abishai
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To: JuanAntonio
Over 40 percent of Texas' student population is Hispanic, with most of those tracing their heritage to Mexico. A new curriculum still teaches Texas independence, but administrators say the traditional "us vs. them" perspective has taken a back seat.

Hey, it's just normal immigration like what we've experienced in the past...

Nothing happening here.  Sure we're couching history lessons, but that's not so much...

We're looking at the furture nation of Aztlan.

25 posted on 05/29/2002 3:49:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: TomGuy
I see you are a Savage fan. You must not understand mull tii cull turism.
26 posted on 05/29/2002 3:50:54 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: JuanAntonio
Not to put the Texans down, but they WERE fighting Santa Anna.
(Has just finished Latin American History class)
In modern terminology, Santa Anna can be considered a dumb@ss.

He was a VERY charismatic leader, managed to gather armies together no matter what the circumstances.
He just couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
The only reasons this idiot was in power was:

1. His home province was Vera Cruz. Vera Cruz was the location of the treasury.
He obviously didn't worry about money with the entire government budget only a good walk away.

2. "Right place, right time" He managed to kick out Spanish and French invasions, mainly by denying entry to the mountains, leaving invading armies to suffer from yellow fever.

3. Lack of anyone else. Seriously, he was one of the few Mexican caudillos (warlords/strongmen) to stay in power for a significant time during the 1800's.
Hell, he even managed to get the presidency one last time even after losing HALF THE FARKING COUNTRY!

Of course, he then completed the Gadsden Purchase and was finally exiled for being such a dumb@ss.
To this day, I doubt any statues in Mexico are dedicated to Santa Anna.

In short, Santa Anna=@$$clown
27 posted on 05/29/2002 3:51:27 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: JuanAntonio
This is the Houston school district, which is a typical, liberal, bloated, poor-performing inner-city school district. It's not representative of Texas, nor is it even representative of Houston, which has several extremely good school districts.

I can assure you that HISD is neither a role model, nor typical of Texas school districts.

28 posted on 05/29/2002 3:51:48 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: JuanAntonio
Bull Sheeet to pc.
29 posted on 05/29/2002 3:55:37 PM PDT by Sparkvark
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To: Endeavor
Re: Your #9: although a North Carolina resident currently, I was born in San Antonio and lived in Lubbock, Austin, and Abilene over a space of a fair number of years. I was going to respond to this thread, but in my opinion, you have given the definitive response. Well-said.
30 posted on 05/29/2002 3:55:44 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: JuanAntonio
My wife is the great-great-great-great Grandaughter of the Vice-President of the Republic of Texas.....Lorenzo De Zavala..... Her Reply......TOUGH....THEY LOST....GET OVER IT! But then again...they are taking it back without firing a shot! (birth rates, illegal immigration...etc.)
31 posted on 05/29/2002 3:56:49 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
Ever read "the rise and fall of the roman empire"?
32 posted on 05/29/2002 3:57:08 PM PDT by Sparkvark
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To: Endeavor
It's about damn time "immigrants" started seeing themselves as Americans rather than as strangers in a strange land with no allegiance to that land and the values held by its peoples.

The immigrants? A bunch of PC, left-wing Anglos, more likely.

33 posted on 05/29/2002 3:57:28 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: Endeavor
Texas defeated Mexico but the Mexicans are reclaiming Texas via illegal immigration and by virtue of a very high birth rate. Having 20 children is common in Mexico.......machismo, they call it! We must stop illegal immigration before the Mexican voting block becomes so large that we cannot do it politically!
34 posted on 05/29/2002 3:57:33 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: colorado tanker
Q: why did santa anna only bring 500 mexicans to the alamo? A: he only had 3 cars!!!!!!
35 posted on 05/29/2002 4:02:02 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: JuanAntonio
There are people in Goliad who want the Massacre at Goliad to be called the Execution at Goliad. They think that sounds better. I thought the executive director of Presidio La Bahia was going to pop a gasket. He didn't go for it at all.
36 posted on 05/29/2002 4:02:20 PM PDT by TX Bluebonnet
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To: cajun-jack
Ouch!
37 posted on 05/29/2002 4:04:45 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: JuanAntonio
This is why homogeneity of a population is a positive, not a negative quality. The alternative leads to this sort of split-personality, loss of a cohesive heritage.

There is no problem, if a society allows in the individual of another inheritance, another race or culture. In that situation, he accepts the climate of his adoptive land; their heritage becomes his; his gratitude for being there may make him more avid in its defense than those originally born to it. But the in movement of large numbers alien to that heritage, within a short time frame will inevitably lead to this sort of corruption.

This is not to single out the Mexicans; although they differ more widely than past waves of immigration from the traditional American norm. But New York, even under waves of Caucasian immigration in the early 20th Century, moved sharply to the Left; away from the politics of the American mainstream, or her own earlier leaders. For example, contrast Grover Cleveland's values as Governor of New York around 1880, with his fellow Democrat Mario Cuomo, a Century later. (Not sure of the spelling, and my point really does not require that I look it up.)

Do not misunderstand me. My views are not based upon an antagonism to foreigners. Three of my four grandparents were immigrants. My views are based upon a fondness for Americans and the uniquely American tradition. Liberal immigration policies will lead inevitably to its destruction. (See Immigration & The American Future.)

I was a young child during World War II, but I well remember the song that rallied America, "Remember Pearl Harbor, As we did the Alamo." It is my prayer that Texans will not allow that type of American spirit to be snuffed out in these days of confused purpose, and attempts to accommodate that which simply will not accommodate.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

38 posted on 05/29/2002 4:04:49 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Dog Gone
That is dead on Dog. As a graduate of HISD I received a fine public school education. It is now and has been a total joke for years. I could not send my son to HISD. Regarding this article, I wish Orwell was alive to read this. Folks, they are taking our culture and our country away from us. We lost at the Alamo, but we whipped Mexico's ass in the war.Texas history had a great deal in shaping my character, and I am very proud of my heritage. GOD BLESS TEXAS, AND AMERICA.
39 posted on 05/29/2002 4:05:32 PM PDT by dix
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To: JuanAntonio
Remember the Alamo!

Remember Goliad!

Remember San Jacinto!

Screw Political Correctness!

We're not giving back Texas without a fight! Keep your powder dry, boys!

40 posted on 05/29/2002 4:10:03 PM PDT by TexasRepublic
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