Widow was asked to apologise to killer

TimesOnline ^ | May 27, 2002 | Chris Johnston

[Bubba_Leroy]

"I'm sorry that England does not have the death penalty. I'm sorry that scum like you is allowed to continue to live. I'm sorry that the government has to hire complete idiots for the Probate Service."

How's that?

[Bubba_Leroy]

Make that "Probation Service" not "Probate Service."

[NautiNurse]

Make that "Probation Service" not "Probate Service."

Frankly, Reprobate Service works in this situation! ;o)

[prophetic]

this is so sickening but NOT UNEXPECTED in light of the Political Correctness that's infected the world.
So they are forcing the widow to believe it was ok for this @$$hole to kill her husband plus to have 'kind happy happy thoughts' towards his murderer?

[BeAllYouCanBe]

The chief probation officer for the area and a representative of the National Probation Service visited Mrs Lawrence to apologise personally.

Difference in legal terminology like they say barrister and we say lawyer.

BUT, can this scum-bag actually be on parole? He committed murder 6 years ago and now he's out?

And the state is providing a "probation officer" to act as a kind of public relations officer to make sure his image is really good and upstanding.

I thought California had problems! These English had better wake-up!

[Paleo Conservative]

Ever notice how the name of the official who tried to force Mrs. Laurence to apologize to the her husband's killer remains anonymous. I think the news media do this deliberately.

[Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek]

There is absolutely no limit on the degree of support given to mascots of the nanny state and its anointed elite. The only noteworthy item in this case is the oddity of the state issuing an apology to one of the benighted masses who has the audacity to challenge its by-definition enlightened policies.

See Thomas Sowell's "The Vision of the Anointed : Self-Congratulation As a Basis for Social Policy" and "The Quest for Cosmic Justice" for many more, equally outrageous examples.s for Thomas Sowell :

[concerned about politics]

Nobody likes being forced to 'think' as the politicians dictate they should. No doubt the womans hate for this guys killer has just amplified 100 fold.
Forcing someone to think contrary to their conscience creates hate.
Hate creates violence.
Violence creates war.
The poltically correct say they do it to SAVE humanity, but the very thing they say they're trying to prevent is mulitplying in stregth every day because of political correctness docturine.
There's more hate in the world today because of political correctness and the thought police than ever before.
Bodies can be bound, but the soul must be free.

[Whilom]

Apology accepted.

[concerned about politics]

THE widow of the murdered headteacher, Philip Lawrence, was asked to apologise to the youth who killed her husband because he was upset by comments she had made,

This is the religion of the anti-christ. Murder is acceptable, but DO NOT hurt anothers feelings. Kill them instead, and you'll be protected.
The Satanic Bible says if a man steps in your way, walk around him. He he steps in your way again, kill him and move on.
Sounds kinda Clintonesk, doesn't it?

[remaininlight]

http://www.cycad.com/cgi-bin/Brand/news/tgfc97_1.html

"Pacqita heard that Britain has a good welfare state and that she and the children could be well off, even if she wasn't in work....so she came here and found that everything she had been told was true," commented a relative of Pacquita of Pacquita Chindamo, Filipino mother of Learco Chindamo who murdered London headmaster Philip Lawrence. She is now living with an unemployed Moroccan in a three-bedroom Council flat in north London.

[concerned about politics]

"Pacqita heard that Britain has a good welfare state and that she and the children could be well off, even if she wasn't in work....so she came here and found that everything she had been told was true,"

Next time you hear someone is a Democrat, you may want to pass it on how wonderful Britian is, and offer to buy them a one way ticket.

[remaininlight]

 

http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_29000/29343.stm

 Tuesday, November 11, 1997 Published at 03:07 GMT



UK

Teenager loses appeal against murder of headteacher

Learco Chindamo claims he is the victim of mistaken identity

The teenager found guilty of murdering the headteacher Philip Lawrence has lost his appeal against the conviction.

Learco Chindamo, now 17, who stabbed Mr Lawrence to death outside his school as he defended a pupil, showed no emotion as the Court of Appeal dismissed his bid for freedom.

Mr Lawrence's widow, Frances, was in court to hear the decision.

The Lord Chief Justice, Lord Bingham, sitting with Mr Justice Douglas Brown and Mr Justice Kay, rejected criticisms of the summing-up by the Common Serjeant of London, Judge Neil Denison, at the Old Bailey trial in October 1996.

"We have to say that in the light of all the arguments advanced we are in no doubt that this conviction is safe."

Mr Lawrence was attacked in December 1995 outside St George's Roman Catholic School in Maida Vale, west London, when a gang of 12 youths led by Chindamo went to attack a boy who had quarrelled with a pupil of Filipino origin.

He was punched and stabbed by Chindamo - a member of the Wo-Sing-Wo gang, which aspired to be the juvenile equivalent of the Triads - and died the same evening.

Chindamo, who was 15 at the time of the stabbing, has always claimed another youth was the killer.

Widow 'consumed by sadness'

He claimed he was the victim of mistaken identity as the other youth was wearing his jacket, and that he was 30 feet away from the murder scene.

Chindamo was ordered to be detained indefinitely after a jury found him guilty of the crime.

Mrs Lawrence, looking shattered after the hearing, said outside the court: "I am consumed by sadness.

"It gives me no great pleasure to see a young man deprived of his freedom but at the same time I am overwhelmed with sadness that my freedom to live a happy life has been taken away.

"Let us not forget that Philip's death was a direct consequence of racial intolerance."

Former Tory MP Harry Greenway, a friend of the Lawrence family, said: "I am surprised that Chindamo ever sought to appeal in the first place.

"I am very relieved that the Appeal Court judges took the decision they did.

"Anything else would have been devastating for school, family and justice," said Mr Greenway, a former deputy headmaster who lost his Commons seat on May 1.

[kaylar]

the murder victim Philip Lawrence

BBC Report on school where Phillip Lawrence was murdered

Image of Learco Chindamo, the teen found guilty of the murder of Philip Lawrence

Teen says he's victim of a mistaken identity ; belonged to the Wo-Sing-Wo gang

From the Celebrating Diversity website : The Philip Lawrence Award for young people

[Peter Libra]

Thanks for your additional information re the lady finding the "promised land". It just adds a little more to the overall picture. I had mentioned previously , on a post re asylum seekers- merely apply 1955 Canadian standards, to persons wishing entry. I expect the same applied to the USA too, when it selected its newcomers carefully.

A journalist tried to apply turn of the century standards to the new waves of immigrants and asylum seekers. He said (Andrew Rawnsley), that it is the vital lifes blood of a nation- this was true, of course.Difference today is both the USA, Canada and Britain having to face ,in a new English phrase: "Importing poverty". When vicious, unwarranted crime results, it is even more tragic. Aside from that have a wonderful Memorial Day. Weather has turned out suddenly here at the Canadian USA border, from previously poor to a glorious Monday of sunshine.

[3catsanadog]

I remember some years ago, the former Miss America, Phyllis George, made the victim of a rape hug her rapist on a television show.

People have this mistaken idea that forgiveness means that when one forgives someone, the next action to be taken is being best buddies. All forgiveness means is that you release the person who harmed you from repaying or making restitution to you. Reconciliation is the responsibility of the person who caused the harm. Forgiveness does not mean that you need to trust them or associate with them anymore. Forgiveness does not mean that the person who caused harm doesn't have to face the consequences of his actions. Forgiveness means that you leave the consequences up to God.

[Peter Libra]

To self, just to mention that there is one country even more liable to step light in vicious crime. It is Canada. The youth in this instance was 15 years old. In Canada, a definition of juvenile can be set aside and - I think, a 17 year old can face adult court. For pre-meditated murder it is 25 years and the old "faint hope" clause(Parole possible after 15 years prison) may still be applied.

A youth of 16 years in British Columbia killed four persons, about five years ago, as a juvenile the max was- is ,four years detention. An outcry was raised when he was sent to an "easy street" facility after three years detention. A good question was raised on FR though ie: WHEN will this fellow get out? What is his REAL sentence?.

[DoughtyOne]