Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 26 May 2002

Various big media television networks ^ | 26 May 2002 | | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, May 26, 2002

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): National security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Reps. Porter J. Goss (R-Fla.) and Jane Harman (D-Calif.).

THIS WEEK (ABC): Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill, Rep. E. Clay Shaw Jr. (R-Fla.), former CIA counterterrorism director Vince Cannistraro, rock star Bono, and Doug MacKinnon, former aide to Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.).

FACE THE NATION (CBS): Senate Minority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Goss.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Senate Majority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.).

LATE EDITION (CNN): Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, Sens. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.) and Arlen Specter (R-Pa.), Lynne Cheney, former FBI counterterrorism chief Robert Blitzer, lawyer Mark Geragos, and authors Ron Kessler and Robert Baer.

[Alas Babylon!]

No, that's E.D. Donuhay.

[CedarDave]

In response to a Washington Post article castigating Daschle for his support of the just-passed pork barrel farm bill, tiny Tom states he is "amazed" at the poor reporting, and tries to defend it by giving some examples of reform while ignoring the larger problems with big subsidies and price supports.

[barker]

Turned on Meet The Depraved long enough to hear little Tommy Daschle say that Dims have always been for tax cuts and then mentiion the so-called "Social Security trust fund" so I turned the tv off.

Double header at the ballpark this afternoon ;-) Bye.

[section9]

This thread is the first place I go on Sunday mornings. Then I seldom have to watch any of the programs. I will watch for the replay of Dr. Rice,though.

Any replay of Condi is always worth waiting for....

Be Seeing You,

Chris

[calebcar]

"Agree...I forced myself to watch this, and I'm glad I did. Daschle can't lie fast enough to keep up with Russert."

You're a better man than I am Gunga Din. I get ill watching Parseltongue on the tube.

[YaYa123]

"Dan Rather: Bush Issued Bogus Terror Alert to Cover Up 9-11 Bungle

NewsMax | May 22, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 5/22/02 7:03 PM Pacific by Bubba_Leroy

"CBS Evening News" anchorman Dan Rather accused the Bush administration Wednesday morning of issuing an unwarranted FBI terrorist alert to New York City yesterday primarily to distract from questions about its handling of pre-Sept. 11 intelligence information.

Appearing on the "Imus in the Morning" radio show, Rather said he "believed" his network's report a week ago that the White House received a CIA briefing before 9-11 on possible al-Qaeda hijackings prompted the administration to issue the alert for political damage control.

"I can believe that the president and the people around him were surprised and peeved, to say the least," Rather contended, "that the information got out last week with [CBS's] report that President Bush had been briefed about some things that, in retrospect after Sept. 11, would indicate that, well, maybe somebody should have done something."

The CBS newsman continued:

"And I can also believe that, as with every president, somebody's in the White House scratching their heads saying, 'How can we change the subject.' Now, the subject has been changed, suddenly and very effectively, from 'How is it that the FBI and the CIA didn't move on the information they had? Where was the president briefed about what, when?'

"The subject's been changed," Rather explained, "from that, to suddenly one administration official after another, and each escalating it, [issuing] a new set of warnings."

The CBS anchor said he doubted the confluence of events was coincidental:

"Maybe these two things are not connected, but surely the people in the administration could forgive us for perhaps thinking, well, perhaps there's some connection here."

Prior to outlining his terrorist alert conspiracy theory, Rather sounded dismissive about the latest warning that had Manhattan in a virtual traffic lockdown Wednesday morning.

"We're on some kind of alert because somebody heard something that somebody may blow something up. [But] as a citizen, what are we supposed to do with that information?"

Rather also defended Democrat calls for a 9-11 investigation into the Bush White House, saying:

"We're not interested in just looking in the rearview mirror so we can nail somebody, you know - 'What did you know and when did you know it?'

"But this is pretty important stuff," he insisted. "Given the stories about intelligence failures that we already have heard about, who can argue that we don't need some kind of commission ... led by professionals that goes into how the situation with al-Qaeda was handled before Sept. 11, what mistakes were made and what we can learn from that."

Rather insisted that curiosity about a possible Bush 9-11 cover-up had nothing to do with partisan politics.

"That's not playing partisan politics. There's already too much of that. That's trying to get information that can help us all in the future."

The CBS newsman also accused Attorney General John Ashcroft of taking advantage of insider information about terrorist warnings to fly on private jets, while the public was kept in the dark about the secret alert, telling Imus:

"If the attorney general is given information that convinces him, 'Hey, I don't want to be on any commercial airliners just now. I'm gonna take government planes everywhere.' If the attorney general was told that ... then it raises a question. Why wasn't the public alerted?"

"Some people probably would not have flown" had they also received the Ashcroft warning, he complained.

After the CBS news anchor's interview, NBC Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski called Imus to correct the record, explaining that Ashcroft's decision not to fly commercial aircraft last summer was prompted by threats against his life - and had no connection whatsoever to pre-Sept. 11 intelligence information."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/687919/posts

ROCKLOBSTER, this is an accurate accounting of Rather's first call. The next day when he called in to refute the whole dang thing, he really blathered, accusing Mikleshevski of having a Tim Russert/Tom Brokaw agenda, and he even resorted to pulling a Hillary.

Rather got irate and angrily denied he ever said Bush or Ashcroft had prior knowledge of 9-11. (No one said he did.)

Rather's biggest blunder was to tell Imus that he called in this second time, because Imus people called and invited him. SPLAT! Imus said, no way did that happen, than Rather had called and asked to be on.

[Miss Marple]

HA! A nice zinger by the President to the odious David Gregory, the monkey boy, from MSNBC:

Gregory asked a question implying that all of Europe was against the US and wanted to know why the President thought there were all those demonstrators. He then spoke a few phrases to President Chirac in French, grandstanding, of course.

President Bush said:" What is this, Gregory? You memorize a few words and suddenly you're intercontinental?"

HAHAHAHAHA!!

[CedarDave]

Off-topic: While hunting for the cartoon on the NYTimes web site came across a chilling series of stories about survivors of the WTC plane crashes but were to die as the buildings collasped. Link here: Fighting to Live as the Towers Died

[YaYa123]

What's really amazing, Rather is now accusing Ashcroft of being out to get him, for calling the media and alerting them to his Imus calls. I for one, have emailed every media outlet I can think of to expose Rather's lies, so no doubt others have too. Rather must be feeling the heat.

But what I found most amusing, Dan Rather used a year old CBS Jim Stewart article to prove Ashcroft had prior knowledge of terrorists threats against commercial airlines. Quite the opposite is true...the article never mentions terrorists, but it clearly states Ashcroft's own security detail made him stop flying commercial airlines because he was receiving personal death threats. (I had included a link to this Stewart article to all the media outlets I wrote, because on my own, I remembered that back last summer, John Ashcroft was receiving death threats.)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

[Hacksaw]

Is the spelling on that correct? (yes, I am doing a web search)

[okimhere]

Thanks for posting the interview. Somehow I hadn't seen that anywhere. Ergh! Can't decide which of his lies makes me angriest. Common sense says it's way past time to get out the hook and drag Blather off the stage. But then he's spouting CBS rhetoric so they won't do it.

Thanks for the great pic of Condi!

[ROCKLOBSTER]

What's really amazing, Rather is now accusing Ashcroft of being out to get him, for calling the media and alerting them to his Imus calls. I for one, have emailed every media outlet I can think of to expose Rather's lies, so no doubt others have too. Rather must be feeling the heat

Thanks for your efforts in exposing this Marxist propagandist scumbag.

Rather appears to be whacking...Savage claims liberalism is a mental disorder.

[okimhere]

I read six of the articles yesterday and couldn't emotionally go on. When I went back later, there were only five and I couldn't figure out (yet) how to get to archives or how to recapture the rest. Exceptionally well researched as to timeline and location of the people written about. So well written that I lived it with them. Did you experience that, too?

[Cold Heat]

Thank you for the opportunity to rant.

I saw Howard Kurtz this morning saying that the reason for the numerous warnings lately is a wag the dog senario. He claimed the Bush administration is trying to divert critisizm from the fact that they screwed up the intellegence prior to 9/11.

He said it was up to the press to dig into this story and get the facts out to the mercun people.

From now on, it will be hard not to hit the abuse button when I see a Kurtz article!

[okiedust]

And no doubt some of those death threats, were generated by the poisonous confirmation process that conservatives must endure. As to the Daschle interview, step one for Daschle was to make an accusation, and when called on it state that it was a question. It is his duty to ask questions. He then stated that both the pres and vice pres were lying about calling him to ask him not to investigate. My experience has led me to believe(remember shadow gov) that the administration will come out with a very delicate indication that they have proof they are not lying. Daschle is playing chicken hoping that the administration will not call his bluff. Since the press never follows up on these things, its a pretty cheap way for Daschle to get a cheap shot in with no political consequences in the press.

As to the fact that the intelligence committees had the same information of the president, it made me laugh when he said it was inadequate because it was not on one piece of paper.(and without big words and lots of pictures.) Maybe we should all send Daschle one piece of paper, so he can put all his intelligence information on it. He looked stooopid in the extreme. Can't wait for the administrations response.

regards

[okiedust]

Regarding Rather, wasn't it Golberg who said that Rather has become the thing he hated the most, Nixon, with his strange persecution complexes and enemies? More proof that Goldberg was right.

regards

[nutmeg]

Gregory asked a question implying that all of Europe was against the US and wanted to know why the President thought there were all those demonstrators. He then spoke a few phrases to President Chirac in French, grandstanding, of course.

President Bush said:" What is this, Gregory? You memorize a few words and suddenly you're intercontinental?"

HAHAHAHAHA!!

LOL! Thanks for posting that exchange between Dubya and MSNBC Monkey Boy David Gregory. We were momentarily distracted when it aired live this morning, and wondered what all the laughter was about. Didn't President Bush also say something like: "Muy bueno, David! Hey, I'm literate in two languages, too!"?

[Mo1]

I saw Howard Kurtz this morning saying that the reason for the numerous warnings lately is a wag the dog senario. He claimed the Bush administration is trying to divert critisizm from the fact that they screwed up the intellegence prior to 9/11.

As oppose to what Clinton use to do by shooting off multi million dollar missles that destroyed a tent ???

They want an investigation .. FINE .. BRING IT ON!!

My guess is that President Bush did alot more in the 8 MONTHS prior to 9/11 then Clinton had done in the 8 YEARS he was in office

[altura]

I know, I was really, really hoping that her recent troubles would mean we could be free of her.

There's something about her that just makes your teeth hurt. So many liberals, and only a limited amount of tooth pain.

[Cold Heat]

My guess is that President Bush did alot more in the 8 MONTHS prior to 9/11 then Clinton had done in the 8 YEARS he was in office

I would not call it a guess. LOL! Bush got more done, even with his horrific start up problems(due to the election) then Clintoon would have considered doing. Clinton was totally into himself, not the well being of the country.

I just wish some of the folks on this forum would take the time to realize this and stop beating on him personally. Issues are one thing but the putrid personal attacks are unwarranted and ridiculous.

Have a great day Mol!