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FBI, CIA back under microscope
The Dallas Morning News ^ | May 19, 2002 | By MICHELLE MITTELSTADT / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 05/19/2002 9:59:40 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

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1 posted on 05/19/2002 9:59:40 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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"We need to know what the White House knew, when they knew it, what they did about it, and
why this didn't come to light till now," House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, D-Mo., said Friday.

Yeah, Dick. That's a good one. What did you do with the same information, huh??........
2 posted on 05/19/2002 10:03:09 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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3 posted on 05/19/2002 10:05:36 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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This business is liable to rebound on the people in the intelligence community who leaked to the press, hoping to shift the blame to President Bush. The press is trying very hard to bring down Bush's poll numbers as election day gets nearer, but I don't think this will fly any better than the Enron campaign did.
4 posted on 05/19/2002 10:08:44 AM PDT by Cicero
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They didn't do anything with much more important information, actually. That's what all of this is about, and we're all hoping that this is another one of Mr. Rove's "triangulations."

By all means, if the democrats really want to have hearings, let's have them! I would very much like to know about what Clinton knew and when *he* knew it, about what the FBI knew (and covered up), about how the Pentagon was bugged, our computers were hacked, about how our nuclear labs "lost" nuclear secrets.

5 posted on 05/19/2002 10:16:55 AM PDT by Reactionary
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That's a great cartoon, btw. :)
6 posted on 05/19/2002 10:18:19 AM PDT by Reactionary
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Yes, let's find out what Clinton knew and when he knew it. When we tried to obtain that info in the past, we were called conspiracy nuts.

The Dems can't have it both ways. When Governor Ridge warns that further attacks are possible, the Dems claim he's alarming the American people unnecessarily. When the government acts cautiously, unwilling to release a warning after a vague hint of threat, the government is called incompetent. No justice there.

7 posted on 05/19/2002 10:30:30 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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That's right. The "loose cannon" have been saying for eight years that Clinton had utterly destroyed our national security, that there were terrorists hitting targets in America and that the FBI was covering it up for some reason thet no one could really understand. People didn't want to listen, of course, but now they're wondering how it's possible that such a broad terrorist conspiracy could have existed for so long in America without coming to the attention of law enforcement.

Of course, now we know that there were repeated warnings from FBI field agents that were ignored by the leadership. The question is why the warnings were ignored and what the information was.

8 posted on 05/19/2002 10:56:10 AM PDT by Reactionary
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I would very much like to know about what Clinton knew and when *he* knew it, about what the FBI knew (and covered up), about how the Pentagon was bugged, our computers were hacked, about how our nuclear labs "lost" nuclear secrets...

Now you've gone and done it. Laid it out on the table. I agree with you 100% on wanting answers to all the stated questions.

By shedding the light of day on some of the unanswered questions we just might start seeing who those people are that are less than patriotic, who the enablers, "moles" and "enemy sympathizers".

I don't see this as a glitch in our intelligence services but rather as a deliberate dismantling of their effectiveness.

9 posted on 05/19/2002 11:24:26 AM PDT by varon
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The bureau did not act on or share with the CIA a July 2001 classified memo ...

Anyone who has ever worked near federal LE (I did) knows that the FBI and CIA have never shared anything with one another. They are most happy when the other agency is sitting with egg on their faces. In general, federal agencies do not share information--it's a territorial pi$$ing contest--your tax dollars at work!

This is not just a federal problem--the problem is just as applicable at the state, county and municipal levels.

It would be nice, considering our current crisis, that this mentality would change, but I seriously doubt it.

10 posted on 05/19/2002 1:40:56 PM PDT by scholar
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Thanks....
11 posted on 05/19/2002 1:41:14 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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It would be nice, considering our current crisis, that this mentality would change, but I seriously doubt it.

I hope it does. It needs to happen.

12 posted on 05/19/2002 1:43:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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Yep!
13 posted on 05/19/2002 1:50:06 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Ciexyz; scholar; landru; Mudboy Slim
The Dems can't have it both ways. When Governor Ridge warns that further attacks are possible, the Dems claim he's alarming the American people unnecessarily. When the government acts cautiously, unwilling to release a warning after a vague hint of threat, the government is called incompetent. No justice there.

Thanks, you nailed it there!

14 posted on 05/19/2002 4:43:12 PM PDT by sultan88
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"The Dems can't have it both ways."

LOL...with the Vast LeftWing Medyuh Whore'd, the RATS can have it as many ways as the Sheeple will swallow...MUD

15 posted on 05/19/2002 5:46:42 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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...with the Vast LeftWing Medyuh Whore'd, the RATS can have it as many ways as the Sheeple will swallow...

In my not particularly humble opinion, the vast majority of the American public are sheeple--waiting for someone to tell them what to think.

16 posted on 05/19/2002 7:23:43 PM PDT by scholar
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"This is not just a federal problem--the problem is just as applicable at the state, county and municipal levels."

That's right; nor, is it a new problem, either.

I recall in military law enforcement there was the reg beat guys, then came MPI & when something was really serious, in came CID.
CID never discussed anything (outside of an interview/interrogation setting) with MPI; nevermind the reg MPs.

The feeling I got from these Special Agents? (~at least from the POV of a Desk Sgt.)
Was that CID was a very closed organization.
The CID guys didn't trust anyone outside of their office with any details concerning any investigation, whatsoever.
Seems insodoing?
CID would put themselves in the best possible position for the control of leaks &/or compromise(s) -- for any reason -- nearly 100% of the time on any given case.

Just might be these various governmental policing agencies have a pecking order, too; and, for damned good reason(s).
Especially in these highly charged & ultra-politicized times?
[read: the NEED to control various *infestations* of Leftist-Socialist Clintonistas, for example?]
Perfect synch would mean there'd have to be an understanding as to what kind of information would justify...even compell a sharing of information; &, most imporatntly, when one of these exchanges would take place.

*Not* an easy thing to do between individuals (as witnessed here amoung we conservatives); nevermind, huge, bloated bureaucracies the size of what we're speaking about, here.
National good or no national good.

"It would be nice, considering our current crisis, that this mentality would change, but I seriously doubt it."

Yea-yea...
Got to wait for the afterlife for that kind of scenario, Angel. ;^)

...I'm afraid a certain level of discoordination's actually built into the *system*, Learned1; on purpose.

17 posted on 05/20/2002 11:47:56 AM PDT by Landru
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...I'm afraid a certain level of discoordination's actually built into the *system*, ...

This is how deep this crap goes--I knew a lady who worked for Secret Service. Her husband was an FBI agent. She literally sat there all day with little to do because the SS didn't want her to know anything she could take back to her husband.

I could question her integrity for staying in the job--but hey, that's another subject.

18 posted on 05/20/2002 12:00:06 PM PDT by scholar
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"No justice there."

...the *perfect* slogan for America's Liberal-Socialist Party; The Democrats.

19 posted on 05/20/2002 12:00:28 PM PDT by Landru
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"She literally sat there all day with little to do because the SS didn't want her to know anything she could take back to her husband."

See?
You've witnessed this, too.

...that's just the way of it, I'm afraid.

20 posted on 05/20/2002 12:02:01 PM PDT by Landru
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