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China plans base on the moon to exploit mineral resources: report
AFP - spacedaily.com ^ | 19 May 02 | staff

Posted on 05/18/2002 9:45:03 PM PDT by RightWhale

China plans base on the moon to exploit mineral resources: report

BEIJING (AFP) May 19, 2002

China, which is pushing ahead with a fledgling space program, plans to establish a base on the moon in order to exploit its mineral resources, state media reported Sunday.

"Our long-term goal is to set up a base on the moon and mine its riches for the benefit of humanity," the Beijing Morning Post said, citing Ouyang Ziyuan, an official with the Chinese space program.

The paper said China has adopted a three-step plan that will eventually make it possible to fly to the moon.

China first wants to put an astronaut in space, then establish a space laboratory, and eventually set up a space station, the paper said.

The paper quoted Wang Zhuangyin, a leading space-program engineer, as saying China would probably be able to achieve manned space flight by 2005.

This is more pessimistic than reports in the Chinese media earlier this year which suggested it would be possible within the next two years.

Wang told the paper that China currently has 12 trained astronauts "awaiting orders."

If successful, China will become the third country after the former Soviet Union and the United States to put a human into space.

China earlier this year launched its third successful unmanned test flight.

The Shenzhou III, or "Divine Vessel III," traveled 108 times around the earth on a flight that ended April 1.

Western diplomats in Beijing say China's space efforts are mainly symbolic and aimed at raising awareness of science and technology among its 1.3 billion citizens, while invoking nationalistic pride.

But the program also offers significant scientific and technological advances to Chinese scientists. In addition, it provides the military -- the main administrator of the space program -- with a range of space-based applications, they said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: exploitation; nonnasa; resource; space
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To: RightWhale
Maybe they are doing nothing more than what we did in the 50s and early 60s. Remember all the neat stuff that was going to happen? "Free" energy from fusion, nuclear airplanes, mining the asteroid belt, building a new Panama canal with A-bombs--exciting time. Got a lot of kids interested in science and the country united behind the Mercury and Apollo programs.
22 posted on 05/18/2002 10:11:00 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: yumanity
Boeing should have no problem doing contract work for the Chinese Space Station and the Chinese Lunar Base so long as it doesn't involve critical military systems.

Space excitement is building in China. If they are not geared up for some of the mamufacturing as yet, they might indeed go out of house for some things.

23 posted on 05/18/2002 10:11:18 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: semper_libertas
They would do well to load our MBA schools likewise.

Having just finished business school, I can say that they already have.

25 posted on 05/18/2002 10:13:12 PM PDT by Apollo
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To: RightWhale
I heard they were going up there to take back an old part of China. By force if need be.
26 posted on 05/18/2002 10:13:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy
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To: RightWhale
This is bullsh!t. They are up to something else.
27 posted on 05/18/2002 10:13:34 PM PDT by Semper911
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To: yumanity
The backyard smelters idea was interesting. China has tried many experiments with their system, but it's been like watching a child trying to figure out everything without the benefit of going to school. It seems like each nation is expert at something by nature. Americans are excellent mechanics, for example. Maybe China will be excellent at space exploration, it could happen.
28 posted on 05/18/2002 10:17:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: callisto
Your ping.
29 posted on 05/18/2002 10:19:33 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
China plans base on the moon

29 posts and no one's used the classic:

"All your base are belong to us now"

30 posted on 05/18/2002 10:24:26 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Maitre_Z
Hey, we got first dibs on Mars.

Well, wasn't the first Mars touchdown by a Soviet craft? I guess the old legal argument could be made that Russia didn't officially take over the status of the Soviet Union but.... :)

31 posted on 05/18/2002 10:24:30 PM PDT by Int
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To: Semper911
They are up to something else

If they are just looking to exploit space resources that alone would suffice to deny the rest of us an easy progression into outer space. There are plums in space, juicy targets relatively easy to get to. The targets remaining if the Chinese get the easy ones first will be much more difficult. Space is huge and endless and full of resources, but economics dictate the order of development. We could be shut out. Those who are earth-centered are looking near-term, those who look to the rest of the solar system are planning for the long-term.

Could America, which has succeeded by exploiting natural resources on earth so well, find itself at a dead-end eventually by not carrying the pioneer spirit off-planet? The Chinese don't need to be up to anything else, this will do.

32 posted on 05/18/2002 10:33:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale

fast moving object near the surface,
the chinese will have to fight with the locals on the moon.
33 posted on 05/18/2002 10:34:05 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: green team 1999
That would be interesting. :)
34 posted on 05/18/2002 10:40:57 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: yumanity
You're right - your analogy is much better. I was actually trying to think of the "Great Leap Forward" but my brain kept returning "Let 1000 Flowers Bloom" which I knew was way off in this context.

Chinese history is obviously not my forte.

35 posted on 05/18/2002 10:42:13 PM PDT by Maitre_Z
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To: Int
the first Mars touchdown

That was Viking in 1976. Russia landed a Venera on Venus.

36 posted on 05/18/2002 10:45:58 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
"Our long-term goal is to set up a base on the moon and mine its riches for the benefit of humanity," the Beijing Morning Post said, citing Ouyang Ziyuan, an official with the Chinese space program.

Since when has China's concern for humanity extended beyond it's desire to oppress humans?
This is a joke right?

37 posted on 05/18/2002 10:46:11 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
the benefit of humanity

Chinese humanity anyway.

38 posted on 05/18/2002 10:47:56 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Maitre_Z
How many millions of dollars per ton will it cost to lug those (worthless?) rocks back to earth.

Set up a solar powered mass driver and it will be cheap as heck .... the capital investment will be high and take decades to pay off but the actual launches will fall to pennies.

Of course something like that can always become VERY powerful artillery as well.

39 posted on 05/18/2002 10:53:17 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: RightWhale
That was Viking in 1976. Russia landed a Venera on Venus.

I was thinking of "Mars 2" and "Mars 3" (1971). I guess 'crash landing' would be more appropiate than 'touchdown' in that case.

40 posted on 05/18/2002 10:57:14 PM PDT by Int
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