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MegaTsunami Planned by bin Laden?
Discovery Channel | 5/14/2002 | gcallah

Posted on 05/14/2002 9:37:13 AM PDT by gcallah

Did anyone watch the Discovery channel on MegaTsunamis over the weekend? Basically, a huge chunk of the island of La Plama in the Canaries is in danger of collapsing into the sea, which would set off a tidal wave washing 12 miles inland on the east coast of the US.

I've heard from a contact in the Army that there are serious worries that bin Laden could try to set off a nuke on La Palma that would trigger the collapse.

Should Discovery have been allowed to show this? Should the US station troops on La Palma?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: binladen; canaryislands; cumbrevieja; lapalma; terror; tsunami; tsunamis
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To: gcallah
From everyday normal villiany to comic-book style super-villiany!!!!
21 posted on 05/14/2002 10:08:42 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Bikers4Bush
If a 10 mile by 5 mile chunk of Antactica can break off without causing a mega tsunami then I'm guessing the eastern shore of the U.S. is safe. This is in part because the icebergs float, which is not the case with the rock.
22 posted on 05/14/2002 10:08:58 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: right_to_defend
tidal wave get's triggered.

Gaaaaaaa! I can't TAKE it any more!! Pull over! You are about to be beaten senseless by the apostrophe police! You are hereby sentenced to 100 sentences where apostrophes can only be used to show where letters have been dropped, or as tasty midday snacks. (Crazy maniacal laughter, rising to a crescendo, running feet, a loud thump against a wall, lots of falling pots and pans)
23 posted on 05/14/2002 10:09:39 AM PDT by Technocrat
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Come on out my way, and you can roll around in the dust. ;-)
24 posted on 05/14/2002 10:11:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: BushMeister
If we're talking about an earthquake that makes more sense. I just don't buy that the land alone could cause the Tsunami.

I employ the pebble in the pond example. Throw a stone in and the ripples dissipate the further out they get.

25 posted on 05/14/2002 10:12:07 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: Bikers4Bush
They do. Waves travel at the local speed of sound (in water, that's several hundred miles per hour).
26 posted on 05/14/2002 10:16:22 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: Bikers4Bush;yall
Is this a bad time to mention that the Big Island (Hawaii) has a diagonal crack cutting across it?
27 posted on 05/14/2002 10:17:31 AM PDT by null and void
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To: East Bay Patriot

28 posted on 05/14/2002 10:18:46 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Bold talk from someone in Texas...not sitting near Cape Cod. I'll pass on the rinse job, thank you very much.

I think you need to consider our feelings. It's always YOU isn't it?

29 posted on 05/14/2002 10:21:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Bikers4Bush
Hey this might not be so bad. Twelve miles in on the Atlantic Coast corresponds nearly exactly to the Blue Zone on The Map. It could be divine intervention. America would be safe for Republicans for another generation.
30 posted on 05/14/2002 10:21:59 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: NonZeroSum
Like I said, I'll buy the shockwave from an earthquake causing both the landslide and the tsunami but I don't buy the landslide alone.

When I was a kid we'd drop H100's in a lake and every once in awhile stun some fish if the fuse was long enough for them to sink. Drop a boulder in and you don't stun squat.

31 posted on 05/14/2002 10:22:07 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: TopQuark
Is that correct..yes, icebergs float, but 90% of their mass is below the water line....( ask the Capt of the Titanic)..and the tidal wave is caused by the displacement of the water, right....?
32 posted on 05/14/2002 10:30:34 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: Bikers4Bush
Why does an earthquake cause a tsunami? When you understand that, you'll understand why a huge landslide can create a similar effect.
33 posted on 05/14/2002 10:30:46 AM PDT by BushMeister
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To: BushMeister
Why does an earthquake cause a tsunami?
Subduction.
34 posted on 05/14/2002 10:33:18 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: gcallah
Scientists warn of massive wave

Scientists warn of massive wave

LONDON, England -- While stressing that there is no indication it could happen soon, Atlantic coastlines in Europe, Africa and the Americas are under threat from a monster wave of Hollywood -- even Biblical -- proportions, scientists have warned.

They fear that a massive landslide following a major volcanic eruption in the Canary Islands would send a 300-foot wave across the Atlantic, causing devastation to coastal towns and cities.

British and U.S. scientists who have issued the warning predict that, in the worst-case scenario, the tidal wave would destroy the coasts of Florida and Brazil.

But the Western Sahara, Portugal, Spain, France and parts of the UK would also be hit.

They fear that the mega-wave -- know as a tsunami -- could be generated by part of a mountain twice the size of Britain's Isle of Man crashing into the sea following an eruption of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on La Palma, in the Canary Islands -- part of the Spanish island chain off West Africa.

Travelling at speeds of up to 500mph, the tsunami would be an unstoppable force and would be the biggest-ever recorded in history.

Previous research by Dr Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College London predicted that a future eruption of Cumbre Vieja was likely to cause the western flank of the mountain to slide into the sea.

The energy released by the collapse would be equal to the electricity consumption of the entire U.S. in six months.

With Dr Steven Ward, from the University of California, Dr Day has produced a new model that predicts more accurately how big the tsunami will be and where it will strike.

Immediately after the landslide, a dome of water almost 900 metres (3,000 ft) high and tens of kilometres wide will form, only to collapse and rebound.

Its first target was expected to be the West Saharan coast of Morocco, where the wave would measure a devastating 330ft from crest to trough.

Propelled by a series of crests and troughs, the tsunami would travel a distance of almost 155 miles in just 10 minutes, the model predicts.

Racing at the speed of a jet aircraft, it would reach Florida and the Caribbean in eight or nine hours.

A wall of water 164ft high -- higher than Nelson's column in London's Trafalgar Square -- would smash into the coasts of Florida and the Caribbean islands, the forecast predicts.

The northern coast of Brazil would be hit by a wave more than 130ft high.

The wave would travel four or five miles inland, flattening everything in its path.

Meanwhile, a weaker, but still hugely destructive, wave was likely to travel along the western coast of the Iberian Peninsular and France and hit Britain's Atlantic coastline.

Dr Day said: "The collapse will occur during some future eruption after days or weeks of precursory deformation and earthquakes.

"An effective earthquake monitoring system could provide advanced warning of a likely collapse and allow early emergency management organisations a valuable window of time in which to plan and respond.

"Eruptions of Cumbre Vieja occur at intervals of decades to a century orso and there may be a number of eruptions before its collapse.

"Although the year to year probability of a collapse is therefore low, the resulting tsunami would be a major disaster with indirect effects around the world.

"Cumbre Vieja needs to monitored closely for any signs of impending volcanic activity and for the deformation that would precede collapse."

Like the rest of the Canary islands, the origin of La Palma is volcanic.

La Palma is not only the steepest island in the world but has also been the most volcanically active of the Canary Isles in the past 500 years.

There have been two eruptions on the island this century alone -- in 1949 and 1971.

Other eruptions in recent history on La Palma occurred in 1470, 1585, 1646, 1677 and 1712.

Tidal waves are not common in the Atlantic, although since 1990, 10 major tsunamis in the Pacific have killed more than 4,000 people.

Scientists suspect an earthquake-triggered tsunami that killed more than 2,000 people in Papua New Guinea in 1998 was bolstered by an undersea landslide.

Hawaii's worst experience in modern times came in 1946 when the April Fool's Day tsunami, generated by an earthquake in the Aleutian Islands, sent a 25-foot-high wall of water ashore, killing 173 people, mostly in Hilo.

On May 23, 1960, a tsunami that hit Hilo killed 61 people.

One of the most famous, and most devastating, tsunamis occurred after the Krakatoa volcano blew itself to pieces in 1883 -- a wave six metres high killed 30,000 people.


35 posted on 05/14/2002 10:33:35 AM PDT by finnman69
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To: BushMeister
I'm not a copmplete idiot. I understand the physics of it.

I'm just saying that the shockwave from the quake is different from the shockwave of the landslide.

36 posted on 05/14/2002 10:34:57 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: TADSLOS
Come on out my way, and you can roll around in the dust.

I'd love to get to Texas someday. Mebbe when I retire.

37 posted on 05/14/2002 10:38:52 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: gcallah
This has happened before in history. Its happened in the Indian Ocean and Hawaii.

The last time La Palma erupted one whole face of the island slid several meters toward the sea. This is caused by water trapped inside the lava columns inside the volcano heating to pressure and stressing the island as well as the constant undercutting of the sea.

It will happen, but it could be the next eruption or an eruption several thousand years from now.
38 posted on 05/14/2002 10:40:37 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: finnman69

39 posted on 05/14/2002 10:43:01 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Bikers4Bush
Are you a geologist? Have a degree in fluid mechanics? I thought not.

It doens't take but a sustained "wave" of a couple of millimeters to cause this type of destruction. I'm taking about a couple of mm in the deep ocean and the width of the wave(front to back) is several miles, not a couple of feet like normal waves. Do a little reasearch first before you sound like a know-it-all who doesn't know anything.

40 posted on 05/14/2002 10:43:11 AM PDT by SengirV
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