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Will America Be the Next France?
TownHall.com ^ | Tuesday, May 14, 2002 | by Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 05/13/2002 11:18:03 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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Tuesday, May 14, 2002

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1 posted on 05/13/2002 11:18:03 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Shame on you posting an article by Debbie and not posting a picture with it.


2 posted on 05/13/2002 11:31:40 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: RickyJ
Yes, indeed -- shame on me!

;^)

Thanks for posting.

3 posted on 05/13/2002 11:32:41 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
The next France? I don't think so.

From an economic standpoint, I have big problems with Bush's policy, but Mexicans aren't Algerians and that does make a difference.

4 posted on 05/13/2002 11:34:52 PM PDT by Salman
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To: JohnHuang2
Why are you posting an article, which is full of lies and not refutin them ?

For the 8 zillionth time, around here, Reagan signed on to blanket amnesty for illeagals ; President Bush has NOT ! The4 so called " amnesty ", that this airhead author is talking about, was for a few thousand people ( 3, I think is the number ) , whodue to 9/11/01 had their applications for a greencard, lost, shreded. or held back / undone. When one is in the midst of this process, unless the paper work has been expidited, you become "illegal " ; but it is NOT what is being inferred here. Sheeeeeeeeeesh !

Oh, now it's President Bush's " PC " instructions, to the FBI, which held back the inept, Clinton trashed FBI ? REALLY ? Bovine excriment !

There may be a lot of Muslims, in France; but, the aren't" running " that country ; yet. More codswallop.

The USA has well over 200 million people, the Muslims comprise about 1.8 % . Far too many, under current circimstances ; however , there are more Jews here, more Catholics, here, more Protestants here, and yes, even more agnostics and atheisits ( sp ? ) here ... which makes this bubbleheaded author's flamable prose, even more over the top !

A junk posting, John.

5 posted on 05/13/2002 11:56:25 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: JohnHuang2
That is why groups like the Dearborn, Michigan-based Arab American Political Action Committee—a group whose officials support homicide bombers--stressed relaxed immigration policy as a requirement for endorsing candidates at all levels. That included endorsed candidate George W. Bush, who fiercely competed with Al Gore for that endorsement.

If I had known Bush fought for and won the endorsement of this group over Al Gore I never would have voted for him.

It will be interesting to see how the Bush-bots will try to defend this.

6 posted on 05/13/2002 11:57:36 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: JohnHuang2
A great post John!
7 posted on 05/13/2002 11:59:50 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: nopardons
an amnesty is still an amnesty, and the wordage used is so vague that it could apply to most illegals.

It's still an AMNESTY.

This author is right. It's about time that we NOT ALLOW any muslim immigration. That means none from any Arab/Muslim nations. Furthermore, it's time we kick all illegals out of our country. This includes Mexicans, Russians, Middleeasterners, Chinese, Columbians, Guatamalans, Irish, whoever.

It looks like France has quite a dilemma. They should start the roundup, or it's going to be too late, and why do I think that political correctness will not allow that to happen.

8 posted on 05/14/2002 12:06:49 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Salman
Yes, but our culture continues to be diluted until the point in the future that what was American becomes Mexican. The same thing happens.
9 posted on 05/14/2002 12:09:21 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: RickyJ
Racist?

Na !

10 posted on 05/14/2002 12:09:31 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: RickyJ
It will be interesting. Apparently, nothing phases them. They act as though he's doing a great job. I respectfully disagree.
11 posted on 05/14/2002 12:11:15 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: BlackbirdSST;GOPcapitalist;TooBusy; MK;goldstategop; hoot2; Fish out of Water; lavaroise...
A must read article!
12 posted on 05/14/2002 12:12:23 AM PDT by RickyJ
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I know on which side Congressman Tancredo is. The question is, on whose side is President Bush?

Tancredo for President?

13 posted on 05/14/2002 12:16:17 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: america-rules
Racist?
Na !

No, just a patriotic American, like I thought Bush was.

14 posted on 05/14/2002 12:18:02 AM PDT by RickyJ
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To: JohnHuang2
All your France are belong to us!


15 posted on 05/14/2002 12:19:48 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: FreedomFriend
Tancredo for President?

With Debbie as his running mate he would have a good shot at winning.

16 posted on 05/14/2002 12:21:52 AM PDT by RickyJ
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To: FreedomFriend
No, it is still NOT " amnesty . It took into consideration , a situation, beyond anyone's control, who would have been penalized ; not to mention the fact ( which you are too blinded by bias to see ) that these people were LEGAL and trying to get their greencards. You haven't read the text of this, IF you can claim that wording is " vague " ; or you need to take reading comprehension 101.

Will France do anything to solve their problem ? I don't know . They way things are now, it's doubtful.

17 posted on 05/14/2002 12:22:44 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: RickyJ
She is quite attractive. A plus for men. She is a woman. A plus for women. Thus, you may be right. They do not deny the fact that these are shallow reasons for people liking her. However, she does seem to have here "head on her shoulders" and is very informed.
18 posted on 05/14/2002 12:24:13 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: FreedomFriend
here=her
19 posted on 05/14/2002 12:25:19 AM PDT by FreedomFriend
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To: Salman
The next France? I don't think so. From an economic standpoint, I have big problems with Bush's policy, but Mexicans aren't Algerians and that does make a difference.

Think again.....

Islam in Latin America...

There are now as many as 7 million Muslims in the United States -- half of them American-born. In recent years, Americans of African, European, Southeast Asian, Latin American and American Indian descent have left their parents' spiritual paths to follow Islam, a religion that includes more than 1 billion believers from nearly every country.

At 10 p.m. on a recent Thursday, Wilson joined several dozen worshippers of different races and ethnic backgrounds at SALAM Mosque in North Sacramento for the last of the day's five prayers. Wilson, who teaches sixth grade in Elk Grove, observes his midday prayer between classes.

A one-time Marxist who still has posters of the late revolutionary Che Guevara, Wilson says Islam gives him a sense of peace and connectedness he never found in Catholicism, the religion of his parents. He and other made-in-America Muslims often combine the American values of democracy and gender equality with Islamic ideals, such as devotion to family, charity, modesty (women often cover their heads, arms and legs) and bans on alcohol, pork, smoking and premarital sex.

The growth of Islam in America has led to a growing acceptance of the hijab (the head cover worn by many Muslim women) and daily Muslim prayers during breaks at schools and workplaces.

Sacramento, home to the oldest mosque west of the Mississippi, at 411 V St., now has nine mosques, several Islamic schools and a Muslim cemetery. Community leaders estimate 35,000 Muslims live in the Sacramento area. Wilson, Loun and dozens of others interviewed say they were drawn to Islam because it places emphasis on prayer rather than on place of worship - no idols or icons are found in mosques, which tend to be relatively spare - and because it attracts a diverse group of followers across the economic and ethnic spectrum.

While many people associate Muslims with Arabs, most Muslims aren't Arabs, and millions of Arabs aren't Muslim. At a Muslim picnic in Sacramento's Haggin Oaks Park last summer, believers from 20 nations prayed and ate barbecue together...

Latino Muslims

In April, California State University, Sacramento, hosted a forum on the "Islamic Presence in Latin America" before and after Columbus.

One of the speakers, Salvadoran-born AbdulHadi Bazurto (President of Latin American Muslim Unity), said the more he examined his roots, the more he questioned the validity of Catholicism in his life.

"Since the day the Spanish arrived, we as people have suffered a lot," he said. "Christianity's 'white God' concept was harmful to our people, who were definitely not white."

Another speaker, Daniel Denton, a Stockton elementary school teacher who was born in Mexico, said he was a hard-drinking veteran of the Gulf War when he began to explore Islam in 1994. At the invitation of Muslims at Delta College, he went to a mosque.

"There was a carpet on the floor, and the walls were bare. I wondered, 'Where is everything?' and then I realized that was everything. If you go to a Catholic church, every few feet they have an image or a statue, but in Islam, there is no association between God and any image."

Denton also was impressed by the Islamic belief that each individual will be judged by their deeds on Judgment Day. That night, he took the shahada, the Muslim vow that says "There is only one God, Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger."

When he started fasting for Ramadan, "I heard my relatives in Stockton were calling my mom in San Diego and telling her I had become a terrorist and was doing drugs," Denton said. "When I went down to San Diego toward the end of Ramadan, I had lost 15 pounds and was starting to grow my beard. My mom was just in tears for days."

But, Denton said, his mother soon realized that instead of partying, he was staying home and talking to her as he had never done before.

"As she began to see the change, she came to accept it, and now she's happy. There's a saying in Islam that goes, 'Heaven lies at the feet of the mother. You have to treat her well at all times, take care of her.' "

Denton, 29, sees similarities between Islamic and Latino culture. "I've noticed that if you take away the crosses, the alcohol and the pork, the smells in my house are similar to Muslim homes. So is the behavior -- the respect for family."

Link to article HERE.

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20 posted on 05/14/2002 12:30:09 AM PDT by ppaul
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