Posted on 05/13/2002 3:51:13 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
The assassination of Pim Fortuyn, a Dutch rightwing politician who was outspoken against the influx of Muslims into Holland and the rest of Europe, and an opponent of immigration, needs to be seen in the larger context of how the growing Muslim population is having an impact throughout Europe and Great Britain.
Americans tend to pay little attention to other nations unless they pose a threat to our national security. It is doubtful that the average American could tell you much about the politics of Great Britain or European nations. The recent French elections got everyone’s attention because an avowed anti-Semite gained 17% of the vote that led to a run-off and repudiation. His brief moment in the spotlight, however, sent a shiver down the spine of those who recalled or know of the politics of the 1930s that led to World War II.
The United States has officially declared its opposition to three nations designated an "axis of evil", Iraq, Iran and North Korea. Other nations are designated as terrorist states, but European nations remain identified as allies, despite their reluctance to support US foreign policy. Moreover, these nations have formed the European Union in order to acquire more power for their region of the world. Great Britain has flirted with the idea of joining the EU, but so far has resisted.
It may surprise you, therefore, to learn that Muslims are the second largest religious group in England after the Anglican majority. There are some two million Muslims in Great Britain. They are not indigenous to England, being largely newcomers from Pakistan, Bangladesh, and India. Others come from Africa, Asia, and even Europe. The Muslims of England are very diverse in many ways, except for their faith in Islam.
Increasingly, though, demands have grown for education of Muslim children to reflect their religion, for official recognition of the Islamic faith. Native-born Brits are less than thrilled with their growing numbers and demands. Still, a recent poll by Eastern Eye, an Asian newspaper published in the UK, revealed that 87% of the Muslims polled said they are loyal to Britain, even though 64% were opposed to the US-led military action against Afghanistan.
The vote in France for Le Pen, a candidate with extreme right-wing political views, was generated by a growing concern of ordinary, native-born Frenchmen and women regarding their Muslim population and other immigrants. Here again, the fact that some four million Muslims are the second largest religious group in France may come as a surprise; more than half of them are French citizens. They are largely the result of France’s colonial past, especially in the North African region.
Most of the Muslim community in France are from nations called the "Maghreb", Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia. Others come from Turkey, Senegal, and Mali. Some are converts. Islam has a long history in France. Ironically, the spread of Islam into Europe was ended with their defeat at Poitiers, France, in 732. It would not be until 1683 when Muslims were defeated near Vienna, that further expansion efforts ended in Europe. Now Muslims merely immigrate to European nations.
France’s situation is particularly instructive. Immigration began in earnest in the 1950s, primarily from Maghreb nations. There are some five million Muslims in France. For decades, the religion was largely invisible and Muslims represented the lowest rungs of the economic and social ladder, but second and third generation French Muslims, in the 1990s, underwent a re-conversion of sorts, joining the ranks of radical Islam to seek an identity in a society from which they felt excluded.
This is interesting, too, because, twenty years ago, the demand for official recognition of Islam led to the Charter of Muslim Faith that defined how a French Muslim could remain faithful to both Islam and France. Today, native French citizens tend to regard Muslims as a danger to their society. The French government, however, has seen integration of Muslims into French society as a wiser path than some form of de facto isolation.
Following 9.11 and the US retaliation in Afghanistan, the French magazine for Muslims, La Medina, organized a public meeting to discuss its significance for Islam. In a converted warehouse just north of central Paris, in October, a large crowd of French Muslims, mostly from North Africa, gathered. One speaker was a 39-year-old Swiss professor, Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of a man who founded Egypt’s Islamic revival movement, the radical Muslim Brotherhood, in the 1930s. "Now more than ever, we need to criticize some of our brothers," he told the packed hall. "My dignity depends on saying ‘You are unjustified if you use the Koran to justify murder.’" No doubt his grandfather is doing cartwheels in his grave.
Reportedly, the overwhelming majority of Europe’s Muslims see their religion as a moderate one. There are 12.5 million Muslims throughout Europe and they are in the process of redefining Islam as people born and bred in Europe. This may be the beginning of a much-needed Reformation within Islam that occurred and redefined Christianity after the Dark Ages.
Having noted the Muslim defeat outside of Vienna, Austria in 1683, it would not be until 1878 before Muslims appeared in greater numbers as the result of the annexation of Bosnia-Herzegovina and other territories by the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Currently, Muslims are the third largest religion in Austria and growing. Their numbers doubled between 1981 and 1991. These Muslims are largely immigrants and are often political refugees. The bulk are formerly Turkish and citizens of the former Yugoslavia. The recent Balkan wars drove a lot of Muslims to choose Austria as a homeland. There are also distinct and visible Iranian and Arab minorities as well.
The relationship between Muslim minorities and the State of Austria has been formalized and regulated since 1912 by the Islam Act that officially recognized the religion. It led to the establishment of the Muslim Faith Union in 1979 and Austrians Muslims are taught their faith in public schools with teachers paid by the State. The rise of nationalistic political parties in Austria reflects a concern seen in France. Increasingly, a growing portion of native Austrians are suspicious and fearful of Muslims.
In Poland, chiefly Polish-Lithuanian Tartars, a group estimated between two and three thousand, have lived in that nation for some 600 years. Their small numbers versus the overwhelmingly Catholic Poles has left them largely ignored. Muslims, however, in the post-Soviet Caucasus are a different situation entirely. A growing fundamentalism has, for example, led the Chechyans to use terrorism and war on the Russians to seek a separate nation. The Russians have responded much as the US has in Afghanistan.
Several former Russian provinces, now independent, but allied republics, have large, if not dominant Muslim populations. These include Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kryghyezstan, and Kazakhstan. Add to this, Albania. The recent Balkan wars were largely religious movements by Muslims and, ironically, the US sided with them and against the Serbians. So did the rest of Europe.
So, now, when you say Europe, it’s wise to keep in mind that the nations that compose it are increasingly home to a growing population of Muslims. Wherever a population of Muslims gains in numbers, they begin to demand autonomy or a change in the governmental structure to reflect Islamic law. This is going to lead to a long religious war, an Islamic Jihad. Not all Muslims will support it, but few can be expected to speak out against it.
You know it. If Sept. 11 didn't wake this country up to what is going on, I doubt that even a "nuclear event" would. People would probably still be making excuses, urging us to "turn the other cheek" etc etc. GAG.
Nevertheless, my point is, when times get tough- the Germans will be looking for scapegoats-and that is when things will get ugly. You are already beginning to see rumblings of trouble. These should prove to be interesting times.
Considering the times we are witnessing and the unfolding trends, it is imperative that someone rise to the occaision.
Well, from what I saw from my perspective here in the UK is it did wake a lot of people up. All the people who are willing to think and come to rational conclusion about something. And you don't have to be an ivory tower intellect to have done that- you can just be some guy sweeping the floor in a textile mill. The ones that didn't wake up, that didn't get- we saw them on 9/11 and the days and weeks following. They were the ones that stood up and said we had it coming. They were the ones protesting against the patriotism and against a military response. They were the ones like Ellen Degeneres who said "I feel so sorry for those poor Afghanis".
They drank the socialist Kool Aid. They are true believers in the UN, Kyoto and "We are the World" for background music. They thought Clinton had been their saviour and they were safe to be left in the hands of his assistant- a mere technician- Gore.
I know I'm being super cynical, but that's the way I see it. The media had worked for decades to prepare the American public for that day when the righteous hoardes of collectivists from across the ocean arrived to dismantle our evil empire. Well, that day arrived without the collectivists- it brought heathens instead. The media is quick to change gears though- they worked with what they had- and before too long they were trying to calm us down, show us how many children and puppies would be killed if we went to war, reminding us over and over again like a mantra "America is evil, we had it coming, remain calm, it'll all be over soon". 9/11 is starting to fade in a lot of people's memories. I think about it every single day. It changed the way I look at everything- myself, my politics, my outlook on life. And I haven't grown less angry with time.
I think the fate of our nation is left in the hands of the ones who did heed that wake up call on 9/11. We've got a long fight ahead of us. We've got an enemy armed and dangerous outside our borders and we've got the leftist rot within. We cannot seperate the two. They are both just as dangerous. The terrorists want to kill our bodies, the left wants to destroy our soul. It's up to those that see this to fight it with every turn. Don't tolerate leftism. Argue with it, yell at it, drag it out into the light, if needs be- punch it in the face. We cannot allow even one more generation of youth to be distorted by leftist idealism. Our military is perfectly capable of winning the fighting war out in the world- we need to prove just as capable of fighting the philosophical war at home.
I saw a bumper sticker today that said "impeach bush" and I was going to flip off the driver but they were in the turn lane and got away. So I just pointed at it and I'm sure people saw it had to decide what they thought about it.
Everything you wrote is right on the money. It just seems that we have got a real uphill battle to fight. I haven't given up but damn it's frustrating.
But do you remember the panic in the media in the first few weeks after 9/11? The way the angry emails went pouring in and they were forced to apologize for things left and right? The way we made all of 'em wear those damnable American flag lapel pins? They were scared. The day they feared the worst looked like it had arrived- the masses had risen up against 'em.
They think they've got us back to sleep now. But there's no reason why we can't continue to be the ones to yank their leash. People have lost the intensity they had- they're sitting back to see what comes of it so far. But Conservative voices are being heard now- and even listened to sometimes. We don't have to quit fighting though. You can make a difference every time you come across a lefty. Facts and workable ideas should fall like rain on their heads- they'll get wet in the end.
It may also surprise the nine million Catholics.
Your religion is evil. Your religion's adherents dance and celebrate when they kill us. You are savages. You have no place in the modern world. You treat your women like sh!t. You WILL BE Conquered!!! Your belief system is inferior.
Oh yeah, you won your little battle on 9/11- but you will lose the war. Islam is a dead end. You don't fit in the civilized world , you're not fit to live in it. The only thing you and your people can offer us is suffering. You will be cast out by your own deeds.
You say we're all educated in the same school? Yeah- USS Cole, Embassy Bombings, 9/11, Bali. Your deeds have educated us. We are a slow people to anger- but when we are angry, we are a force to be reckoned with. I say it is you who needs to preach to your brothers about tolerance. If you don't want to all be killed- repent of your wickedness- else you will die. You and your whole way of life.
Hmm, gee, the muslims we read about are drinking, raping, and targeting infants in strollers to be blown up. Leave a church a filthy mess, curse, delight in acts of sadism and torture, cut off heads and other body parts of children on videotape to raise money for their holy war, kidnap innocent people who are bringing aid to them.
Islam in the news....you should try learning about Christ.
LORD JESUS CHRIST, whom you deny and hide from, welcomes you even today with open arms. I will pray for you this morning at liturgy.
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