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Okay, you are no Conservtaive; now, you need to admit to your Marxism, as well . All of this garbage, about the " elits " and " ruling class ", belies certain juvenile thought processes, that you have. Yes, there it is ... you feel oh so powerless, so irrelivant, and you are. The Founding Fathers agreed with you, in that you don't have enough sense / ability , to be able to actually vote for a president. That's WHY they set up the Electoral College, you know. The FFs were ELITISTS !

I won't admit my Marxism because I'm not a Marxist. Of course we will always have an elite ruling class... the issue is what kind of men and women they will be. They must be people who believe in our Constitution. My quarrel isn't with the "elites" in general, but with the kind of people they are now as opposed to the kind of people we need. We don't need conservative or leftist elites; we need Libertarian elites who can understand enlightened self-interest. What might be good for me (not locking up people who smoke pot, for example if I do) might also be good for other people (not locking up people who enjoy an occasional drink if I don't drink but they do). So I agree not to sic the government on you for enjoying your "demon rum" and you agree not to sic them on me for enjoying my "demon weed". (By the way, I don't smoke or drink. This is just and example)

ROTFLOL ! You certainly DO give a rather good run, at being a " class " basher, dear. Now, that you've been called on it ; you back track mighty fast .

The upper middle and upper classes aren't EVER going to turn into Libertarians. For centuries longer than the LP has been around, they have been brought up with the ideal of " nobel obliege ". That's a far superior attitude. Net worth doesn't place people in each " class " / strata ... it's much more than that.

I have NEVER done / tried any illegal substance and rarely partake of any alcoholic bevaerage . No, decriminalizing dope, wouldn't change my mind about it; however , it most assurredly WOULD influence others. That's what you and other Libertarians don't get / refuse to admit. It's human nature, and yes, I can substanciate my postion ; you can't.

What the Libertarian web sites and Libertarins won't tell you / don't know, is that a vast number of people, in jail for dope ( and especial pot crimes ) , are there because they copped a plea, for a lesser crime. Sort of like Al Capone and the tax evasion ... it's the ONLY way that there is, sometmes, to get hardened criminals off the streets.

Libertarians will NEVER become a viable political party; let alone one that is going to do a damned thing about getting its positions pushed through.