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Christians plot political infiltration
Scotsman ^ | 5/12/02 | JASON ALLARDYCE POLITICAL EDITOR

Posted on 05/12/2002 7:44:04 AM PDT by LarryLied

A POWERFUL network of right-wing Christian campaigners is attempting to infiltrate Scotland’s mainstream political parties.

Fundamentalists are trying to ensure that only candidates who back "family values" fight next year’s Holyrood election.

A Scotland on Sunday investigation has established that Christian Action Research and Education (Care), a UK charity with an annual income of £2.4m, has drawn up plans for as many of its members as possible to join mainstream political parties.

Last night it led MSPs to accuse the group of trying to "pervert democracy". Care was among the most vigorous opponents of the repeal of Section 28, which banned the promotion of homosexuality in schools.

The organisation aims to tackle what it regards as Scotland’s "permissive society", including government plans to give greater rights to homosexuals and quicky divorces.

Now it plans to escalate its activities by persuading members to join the Labour party, SNP, Conservatives and Liberal Democrats in Scotland and influence their internal candidate selection procedures.

In a message written for its estimated 3,500 Scottish supporters, Care has urged activists to "consider joining a political party" to help "give a strong moral lead in the Scottish parliament".

Noting that selection procedures are now underway for parliamentary candidates, the internet appeal adds: "This provides an opportunity for Christians to influence this selection process by joining political parties and asking the potential candidates their views on a range of issues."

In another message, the group claims Britain’s political system presents Care "with huge opportunities to influence the governance of our society".

It suggests activists join with a friend "so that you can support each other in making a difference".

The message adds: "It is only by joining that we can help change policies. Membership enables you to vote on issues and be a part of policy formation, as well as taking part in the selection of candidates for elections."

The disclosures have appalled mainstream politicians in Scotland, amid fears that falling party membership levels could leave them vulnerable to infiltration.

Mike Russell, the SNP’s shadow education minister, said: "Clearly everyone has a legitimate role to play in politics but if the role is to try and take parties over for a single viewpoint it won’t succeed because parties are not like that.

"To try to do so strikes me as a perversion of democracy."

The Scottish Tories and Labour voiced similar fears and the development alarmed gay rights campaigners, mindful of Brentwood and Ongar where Martin Bell stood in last year’s election after claims that the local Conservative association had been infiltrated by an evangelical church.

Tim Hopkins, a spokesman for Scotland’s Equality Network, said: "My main concern is that if an organisation makes a point of trying to join small party branches there is a danger they will have a disproportionate effect."

Care enjoys access to Executive ministers. It has lobbied hard to ensure the morning after pill is not made more widely available to school children and has also resisted the lowering of the age of homosexual consent.

Last night a Care spokesman said its message to supporters was probably worded "quite crudely" but the charity was acting on concerns about politicians not representing the views of ordinary people in Scotland.

Adam Atkinson, the charity’s head of communications, said: "We are saying that, if you are wanting to bring about change in your community, then it makes sense to get involved in political parties."

Scotland on Sunday’s investigations established that in total over 100 MPs and MSPs, including Scottish ministers Peter Peacock, Malcolm Chisholm and Nicol Stephen, have been employing staff who also represent organisations with vested interests in government policy.

Peacock, the deputy finance minister, employs Hugh Raven, a professional lobbyist who has been getting paid tens of thousands of pounds to campaign for a Executive policy U-turn on organic farming.

The disclosure sparked opposition fears of unfair access to the Executive, and while Labour insisted there was nothing unfair about the practice Tricia Marwick, the SNP MSP and standards committee vice convener said Holyrood may now have to regulate non-commercial lobbyists.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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1 posted on 05/12/2002 7:44:04 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
A Scotland on Sunday investigation has established that Christian Action Research and Education (Care), a UK charity with an annual income of £2.4m . . .

Wow. Malefactors of great wealth. (Not!)

2 posted on 05/12/2002 7:52:00 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: LarryLied
Isn't this what the *left* has been doing for 40 years? Turnabout is fair play I'd say. More of the conservative *rightwing* needs to infiltrate more levels of governmental bureaucracy.
3 posted on 05/12/2002 7:58:38 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: LarryLied
Care . . . has lobbied hard to ensure the morning after pill is not made more widely available to school children and has also resisted the lowering of the age of homosexual consent.

Regular Mussolinis, are't they? If this article is typical of how they think in Scotland, soon we're going to have to start offering Scottish Christians political asylum.

4 posted on 05/12/2002 8:00:21 AM PDT by Steve Eisenberg
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To: LarryLied
A POWERFUL network of right-wing Christian campaigners is attempting to infiltrate Scotland’s mainstream political parties.

EEEEEk! Call the gendarmes! We can't have morality infecting the body politic! You know how those filthy Christians [spit] undermine the efforts of communism. To have something constructive and healthy worming its way into our political discourse could mean the end of self-promoting humanism! It's ... it's unTHINKable!

5 posted on 05/12/2002 8:17:10 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: IronJack
I've heard, but this may be an urban myth, that Christians even have a book in which their plans for world domination are laid out. Apparently the key to it all is a commandment to recruit new members to their insidious, subversive ideology.
6 posted on 05/12/2002 8:26:04 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
"This provides an opportunity for Christians to influence this selection process by joining political parties and asking the potential candidates their views on a range of issues."

Well, yes, isn't this what people are supposed to do in a democracy? Why is it that anyone other than a Christian merely "joins" a political party, but Christians infiltrate?

Would the establishment Leftists prefer that Christians voluntarily dis-enfranchise themselves?

On second thought, never mind. The question answers itself.

7 posted on 05/12/2002 8:46:02 AM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: Goetz_von_Berlichingen
"A POWERFUL network of [[left-wing environmentalist]] campaigners is attempting to infiltrate Scotland’s mainstream political parties. Fundamentalists are trying to ensure that only candidates who back [["values of global responsibility"]] fight next year’s Holyrood election."

Food for thought. If the above changes (noted in brackets) had been the actual printed text, would you still have been in support of the situation for reasons of democratic justification? Would you characterize the establishement Rightists as having been in favor of disenfranchising the Greenies? And if so would they be justified?

Interested to hear your response...

8 posted on 05/12/2002 9:51:56 AM PDT by societyasart
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To: LarryLied
The only perversion of democracy I see is left-wing Christian haters trying to deny Christians a right to get involved in the democratic process.
9 posted on 05/12/2002 10:17:07 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: societyasart
Not comparable. The most common strains of environmentalism are a cover for extreme socialism and have nothing to do with the environment. They are anti-democratic, anti-human and anti-liberty.

For a better example change "Christian" in this story to "Jew."

"Jews plot political infiltration" sounds rather bigoted, doesn't it?

10 posted on 05/12/2002 10:24:56 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Are they kidding? Using the words, "plot" and "infiltrate" when describing Christians?

Yeah, HELLO...

Can anyone deny and doubt the existance of the father of lies, Satan, and his minions are at work non-stop in subverting truth?

11 posted on 05/12/2002 11:14:16 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: LarryLied
Can you support the following statement with evidence: "The most common strains of environmentalism are a cover for extreme socialism and have nothing to do with the environment. They are anti-democratic, anti-human and anti-liberty."

Also, how would your characterization of enivornmentalism make the original article any more biased toward the disenfranchisement of a particular group of citizens? Thanks.

12 posted on 05/12/2002 11:15:44 AM PDT by societyasart
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To: LarryLied
Also, can you explain the difference bewteen these three:

"Environmentalists plot political infiltration"

"Jews plot political infiltration"

"Christians plot political infiltration"

I don't understand the difference in "bigotry" between these three. How do the last two imply a bigotry not contained in the first?

13 posted on 05/12/2002 11:17:20 AM PDT by societyasart
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To: IronJack; Larry Lied
Some tables in the temple of Scotland need to be overturned.
14 posted on 05/12/2002 11:48:41 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: societyasart; all
Also, can you explain the difference ...

No difference, of course. The headline's infiltration (what to speak of plot) is pretty damned appalling.

15 posted on 05/12/2002 12:03:55 PM PDT by dighton
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To: dighton
Why is it "appalling?" Please be specific.
16 posted on 05/12/2002 12:32:39 PM PDT by societyasart
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To: societyasart
Why is it "appalling?" Please be specific.

Because infiltration suggests the editor's belief, IMO a nasty one: that Christians don't belong in Scottish politics, but are somehow managing to sneak in, and should be thwarted.

17 posted on 05/12/2002 12:49:11 PM PDT by dighton
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To: LarryLied
Those Bastards!!! Imagine, trying to get people elected who hold the same values as you!!! They have no right...

Mark

18 posted on 05/12/2002 12:57:59 PM PDT by MarkL
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To: *Christian persecutio
This anti-Christian language is absolutely preposterous!

Christians plot as if the are subversives
political infiltration as if they are spies
A POWERFUL network threatening
of right-wing Christian campaigners the author is of, of course, in the center; he is not left-wing, not sirree.
is attempting to infiltrate same defamation reitreated

Scotland’s mainstream political parties.

Fundamentalists are trying to ensure that only candidates who back "family values" fight next year’s Holyrood election... Last night it led MSPs to accuse the group of trying to "pervert democracy".

Are you for family values? Well, then, your place is in prison: you pervert democracy.

And I thought that anti-religious oppression was bad in this country. This "post-Christian Europe," as they call themselves, is something else. This country is the last hope.

G-d bless and protect the United Stated of America.

19 posted on 05/12/2002 1:17:42 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: dighton
And we're back to my original questions. Would it still be appalling if the insinuation was that environmentalists, Jews, or Muslims were attempting to gain a voice in the political sphere? If you say no, then please give another specific reason why.
20 posted on 05/12/2002 1:20:24 PM PDT by societyasart
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