Posted on 05/10/2002 7:16:36 PM PDT by Slam
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:53:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
So was your tour of duty with the Taliban or the Hezbollah? They don't think very highly of Bush these days, you know.
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Gore was never on a serious tour of anything. He was put in a protected privileged position that would look good on his resume if one didn't look too close.
(FROM DU)
"ATTENTION
As many of you are probably aware, we had an incident tonight. Forums disappeared and a message appeared with someone claiming to have 'hacked' DU's server. He is lying. It is not true.
The perpetrator succeeded in doing nothing but exploiting a loophole in our forum software which enabled him to create the desired effects on the forums. He never gained access to our server. This means, in a nutshell, that this is no big deal and the perpetrator will be dealt with, since all evidence is intact.
Our server is fine and was never compromised.
The forums will remain closed at least until Saturday, probably longer, while we plug the hole and investigate the incident.
Please do not send us emails asking what happened. All updates will be posted here as they come."
Bush was flying an aircraft that saw service in Vietnam. He was in the Texas Air National Guard and Air Guard units all through the U.S. were rotating through Vietnam.
If you can show me any man that can keep a Guard Unit from being called up and rotated through a war zone I would like to meet him.
Bush missed combat, but so did my dad. Like Bush my dad didn't go to Vietnam and for similar reasons. Bush didn't make decide not to get shipped to Vietnam and my dad didn't decide to be assigned to an aircraft that wasn't deployed to Vietnam.
I bet those that rotated through Vietnam wished they could have been so lucky. My dead gradfather was a Marine and was in combat in the Pacific during WWII and my other gradfather was told to be a teletype operator in Louisiana. Neither picked their position but both did their duty.
Gore did indeed complete his tour as a REMF, in the rear with the gear, and with personnels bodyguards. Meanwhile "W" flew jets, fairly early models, Just strapping one of those on lowered your life expectancy signifigently. Yes he did leave his Texas Air Guard unit before his full commitment was up, but it was all above board. He didn't have much time left, and the unit was converting from F-102s to F-106s, and they didn't want to waste training resources on someone who was going to be gone shortly, so they let him go early. He was reassigned to an administrative "unit" in another state where he had moved.
Software loophole was exploited, Forums are down until (at least) tomorrow, and the guy created his desired effects on the forums.
BUT WE WEREN'T HACKED! AND AL WON THE ELECTION! HE DID! HE DID! HE DID!
What? All three months worth?
They broke a Navy rule. A very important and usually unspoken rule: what happens overseas, stays overseas. It is true that newspaper reporters aren't sailors, and so are not as strictly bound to this rule, but they should adhere to it nonetheless.
Tuor
And before that the USS Gompers had to cut short thier deployment just past Pearl because so many of their crew was preggers that the ship would not be able to perform its duties. I heard that the Captain cought hell over that, even though I have a hard time believing he could've been responsible for so many pregnacies.
BTW, for you non-Navy folks: if a sailoress gets pregnant, she *must* be removed from shipboard duty until after she delivers. Thus, when deployment time comes around, all of a sudden lots of sailoresses come up pregnant. I don't know if this situation is still as prevelant as it was when I was in (88-94), but I imagine it is.
Tuor
In Bremerton, you could always tell when a carrier pulled out for deployment: that night, the clubs were full of (married) women.
Tuor
Sorry if you thought I was yanking your chain. You can see my comments make more sense directed at that schlub.
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It's been going on for years that I know about. Back in the 80s the navy went on exercises. The fleet commander wanted to know where a certain vessel was. The captain said he couldn't leave port, too many of his crew were pregnant. As of ten years ago 15% of woment soldiers on some army posts were getting pregnant every year.
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