Iraq deploys missiles, violates no-fly zones

Washington Times ^ | 5/10/02 | Bill Gertz

[kattracks]

U.S. intelligence agencies have identified new surface-to-air missile batteries near Nasariya in southern Iraq, and Iraqi military pilots are increasingly violating no-fly zones created by the United Nations, U.S. intelligence officials say.

The missile batteries are protecting an airfield and several underground bunkers near Nasariya that could be involved in the development of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons, the officials say.

[Cold Heat]

They must think we are too busy in the Middle East to bother with them. LOL! Wrong!

[listenhillary]

How do you say "Spank me again in Arabic" ?

[wny]

Is it true that in the Gulf War the US Army referred to Iraqi troops as "speed bumps"?

[ex-Texan]

That was this -- this is now. The Russkies and Chinese have helped Saddam upgrade his missle defense systems.

And where are the allies we had during the Gulf War?

Saddam promised that before he dies he will have his revenge.

[SevenDaysInMay]

Threat of a second front. As HAMAS is reduced to a scab in the sand, Iraq and Iran will produce/enable skirmishes.

[ex-Texan]

Under rapist, traitor x42 our troops were deployed to over 130 countries as 'peace keepers.' Many of our troops are still overseas. We need them back in the U.S. as soon as possible.

IMHO, x42 bet our national security on his ability to charm and bribe Arafat with $ 2 billion. He also was so self-deluded as to beieve that by twisting Barak's arm and bribing Arafat that he cold force a settlement. Bribery, self-delusion and political pressure were the essence of x42's fraudulent 'peace process.' The Camp David meetings were nothing more than a huge photo op for x42 to do what he does best -- grin and make promises.

The White House pulled out of Iraq and allowed the U.N. to walk out of Iraq .... no weapons inspections for nearly four years .... The White House also called off a CIA operation which promised to put an end to Saddam. As a result, thousands of brave Kurds died .... entire families were thrown into acid baths by Saddam.

Note that in the face of vague Russkie and Chinese 'warnings' of Islamic Jihad, Saddam has had a lot of time to build real and fake bunkers. The Russkies and Chinese have supplied him with information about when our satellites are overhead. Iraq now has much more sophisticated defense systems and new Chinese and / or Korean missles which threaten Europe.

Now Tony Blair is 'assuring' the Labor Party that the U.K. will not atack Iraq unless the U.N. Security Council gives the OK. I am suggesting that Blair just realized that London may be vulnerable to a biological attack by missle from Iraq.... How many Islamic sleeper agents are now in England ...?

[widgysoft]

scary thoughts!

Not looking good at all. WW3 is almost here.

[CaptRon]

Saddam promised that before he dies he will have his revenge.

He'd better hurry up, then. He doesn't have much time.

[Nuke'm Glowing]

I really hope we hear an announcement about "Operation Linebacker 3" soon. This time over Iraq, of course.

[rightwing2]

"These are threatening our pilots," said an official familiar with the deployment of several trucks equipped with SA-3 missiles and radar recently spotted inside the southern no-fly zone.

These kind of bogus propaganda reports really tick me off! Iraqis moving SAMs to defend their airspace from UN pilots bombing them. Iraqis flying fighter jets in their own airspace. I mean--this aggression against humanity must not stand, right!! How dare the Iraqis try to defend themselves against the godless dictates of the United Nations and the fighter bombers the US sends to enforce the incipient global government's dictates!! I hope everyone here on FR will stop buying into this Iraq war hysteria propaganda and take a second look at the situation from an unbiased perspective. Iraq poses no threat to the US, it has never attacked US forces other than when we justifiably attacked it to liberate Kuwait in 1991. It has not supported terrorism against the US for at least a decade if ever. Finally, Saddam has been as passive since 1991 as Quadaffi has been since 1986 when Reagan tried to assasinate him with bombs from navy fighter-bombers, but ended up killed his infant daughter instead.

I mean who is the aggressor here?--the Iraqis trying to defend their country from UN aggression or the UN mad bomber pilots which have been bombing them almost every week since Clinton initiated Operation Desert Fox designed to forestall his impeachment in the House of Representatives. Yes, that is how long we have been at war with Iraq--since December 1998! Most Americans probably slept through this news. Since there is no longer any need for the President to keep "wagging the dog", it is time for our unjustiable aggression against Iraq to stop! It is time to renounce the godless anti-American United Nations and repudiate their stupid "no-fly zones" over Iraq which resulted in a friendly fire incident over Iraq in which US F-16s shot down US helicopter carrying 16 American officers including a general officer. At that time, UN/Earth-worshipper Algore eulogized our soldiers, saying that "they died in the service of the United Nations." How many more American lives are we willing to sacrifice for the godless United Nations?! Its time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US. As Pat Buchanan said, we should tell UN General Secretary Kofi Anan that his lease on the UN building in NY is up and if he doesn't leave in 24 hours, we will send the Marines to force him out!

[relee]

...over 130 countries...

That's a lot of countries!

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

It is time to renounce the godless anti-American United Nations and repudiate their stupid "no-fly zones" over Iraq which resulted in a friendly fire incident over Iraq in which US F-16s shot down US helicopter carrying 16 American officers including a general officer.

F-15s shot down the Blackhawks, not F-16s. There were 26 KIAs from the U.S., UK, France, Turkey as well as Kurdish representatives. American incompetence caused the shootdown, not the no-fly zone or the UN.

[Cold Heat]

Now Tony Blair is 'assuring' the Labor Party that the U.K. will not atack Iraq unless the U.N. Security Council gives the OK. I am suggesting that Blair just realized that London may be vulnerable to a biological attack by missle from Iraq.... How many Islamic sleeper agents are now in England ...?

It walks and talks like a duck! It must be capitulation and fear.

[Lazamataz]

U.S. intelligence agencies have identified new surface-to-air missile batteries near Nasariya in southern Iraq, and Iraqi military pilots are increasingly violating no-fly zones created by the United Nations, U.S. intelligence officials say.

Armed with the Czech passive-radiation detection system, they can spot our Stealth craft effortlessly now.

[ChaseR]

bttt

[rightwing2]

F-15s shot down the Blackhawks, not F-16s. There were 26 KIAs from the U.S., UK, France, Turkey as well as Kurdish representatives. American incompetence caused the shootdown, not the no-fly zone or the UN.

That is why I said 16 US officers. The 26 KIAs were from the US, UK, France and Turkey, not just the US. The shootdown would not have happened were it not for the UN no-fly zone and the US decision to enforce the UN's dictates. Why are you defending the United Nations? The only real American incompetence demonstrated here was the Clinton-Bush Jr. decision to support and enforce the UN "no-fly zones" in violation of international law and the timeless principle of national sovereignity.

[AFreeBird]

Iraq poses no threat to the US, it has never attacked US forces other than when we justifiably attacked it to liberate Kuwait in 1991. It has not supported terrorism against the US for at least a decade if ever.

What planet have you been living on?

Iraq, and more specifically, Sodom Insane is a major threat to this contry. Either directly or via proxy. If he gets WMD in his hands, he will use them.

[rightwing2]

What planet have you been living on? Iraq, and more specifically, Sodom Insane is a major threat to this contry. Either directly or via proxy. If he gets WMD in his hands, he will use them.

That is what you have been conditioned to believe by the war party propagandists. You think championing endless UN agressions against the tin-pot dictator led second-rate countries of the world that can't fight back, makes you some kind of foreign policy conservative? Think again. You should try to think independently for a change and not accept what the liberal internationalists train you to believe with their propaganda. You would be surprised how good it feels good to discover truths and answers to world problems not to be found on the pages of the liberal internationalist media propaganda print media outlets or to be heard and seen on liberal internationalist dominated TV news programs.

The truth is that Saddam would never use WMD against the US except perhaps if the US were to try to take Baghdad and overthrow him by a military invasion--in other words if his life or regime were directly threatened by US armies in country. He would probably not even use WMD if he was about to be overthrown. I mean we are not talking about North Korean Communist dictator Kim Jong Il here, the largest recipient of US aid in Asia with the exception of Israel. Kim, unlike Saddam who is a fairly sane fellow and a survivor who can be rationally and in his own interests, actually is crazy enough to use WMD against the US.

I guess that is why the Bush Administration has reversed course and has reverting to the Clinton policy of appeasing North Korea and perhaps even building the two nuclear reactors which the House GOP Policy Committee experts say would give them the ability to increase their current nuclear warhead production to some 60 warheads a year! This is our policy to deal with North Korean nukes which now threaten the entire United States--to provide them with much bigger, brand-new high-tech nuclear reactors that will help them build a lot more nukes! Now that is an insane policy which makes Saddam look very sane in comparison! The idiotic Clinton-Bush foreign policy on terrorism and WMD proliferation may be summarized as the conduct of endless wars and bombings of countries that have no capability to threaten the US like Iraq and the renunciation of military action against, appease, reward, and even help build up the nuclear capabilities of countries like Iran, and North Korea who not only have the ability to engage in massive terrorist/WMD attacks against the US, but who have actually demonstrated the will to do so.

Meanwhile, Bush rewards Communist China for being the world's most egregious proliferator of WMD and ballistic missile technology and violator of US laws mandating sanctions against such offenders, not to mention a supporter of the recently defeated Taleban, with a hundred billion dollars in US taxpayer-subsidized trade plus billions of dollars more in aid, credits. In addition Bush has rewarded the ChiCom EP-3 terrorist rogue-state hostage takers with some of the most state-of-the-art dual-use military technology available including most notably Bush-authorized US supercomputers 50-100 times more powerful than Clinton allowed to be sold to Communist China during the Chinagate scandal for which he should have rightfully been impeached! Do the Bushies really think that such a demented Communist/terrorist/WMD proliferator appeasement foreign policy actually deters nuclear proliferation?? Quite the contrary, the President's foreign policy goes far to encourage WMD production and proliferation which is why we face the massive WMD proliferation problem we face today.

Apparently, you have never heard but Saddam has had WMD for well over two decades! Since you think you are so smart, why don't you tell us all here on FR why Saddam didn't use the more than 5,000 tons of chemical and biological agents that he had weaponized in artillery shells, SCUD missiles and MRL rockets against US troops invading his country or even Israel for that matter??? What's that--you can't answer? Well then, I rest my case. Saddam never had a better opportunity to use WMD against the US than Desert Storm. He chose not to do so for obvious reasons. Saddam will never use WMD against the US. Why? Because, the US would probably nuke Baghdad if he did.

[LarryLied]

Ok. So we'll just take our Saddam for the heck of it. Good practice for our troops and it makes others think.

SAM sites are so yesterday.