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To: weikel
All feminist hate men on at least on a subconscious level hatred of men and for the natural order is at the core of feminism.

Your parochial experiences notwithstanding, you are wrong. The only thing REAL feminists hate is being dictated to on the basis of being female. REAL feminists, and real women for that matter, insist on being treated like responsible individual adults, not like children who must be told what to do and how to act. That's it. That's the "core" of feminism, nothing more, nothing less. It's really quite simple.

And it has nothing to do with hating men. People who hate men (or people who hate women) have their own separate problems. It has nothing to do with feminism or anything else. These people just need intense psychological help.

The author of this piece is engaging in collectivist demononizing of large groups of people based on scant personal experience. He is doing exactly what he claims "feminists" are doing! That makes him a hypocrite as well as ignorant of the facts.
14 posted on 05/08/2002 2:16:44 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Oh so you are a feminist god help us if we have feminist on FR.
15 posted on 05/08/2002 2:21:00 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Lorianne
You know, I worked on a ranch, built fences, served in the Air Force as an aircraft mechanic, raised livestock and poultry, unloaded trucks, and work now in a high-speed packaging mill. All this because I WANTED to. I'm married too, for almost 17 years now.

And you're a feminist? How CUTE.

22 posted on 05/08/2002 2:53:29 PM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: Lorianne
People who base their self-worth on the degree of victimhood perceived to have been inflicted on their gender (or race or whatever) are unpleasant to be around.

People who insist that there are no significant differences between the genders are fools, and hence unpleasant to be around.

32 posted on 05/08/2002 3:40:31 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Lorianne
It seems like you're upset about the traditional female role. There is a reason that women are nurturers and men providers. IT WORKS. God made us that way. No bit of whining is going to change that.
69 posted on 05/08/2002 9:56:11 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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