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To: knighthawk, sonofliberty2, HalfIrish, NMC EXP, OKCSubmariner, Travis McGee, t-shirt, DoughtyOne,
The far Euroleft like the Greens and the Socialist--Laborites are responsible for the hateful and bigoted smear of List Fortuyn as a far-right extremist party and the socially progressive Fortuyn as a far right extremist himself that resulted in this ecoterrorist being whipped into a terrorist frenzy and identified a man he had undoubtedly been convinced was to be "the next Hitler". In fact, it is a socially liberal nationalist party which has little in common with "the far right" other than opposition to immigration which is becoming more and more mainstream since the horrors of immigration were exposed in the 9-11 terrorist suicide bomings.

Why is it that the left so vilifies the right when it expresses opposition to immigration? It appears to be because ethnic minorities who tend to be more impoverished than longtime residents of a country tend to form the base for socialist and other far-left parties and therefore provide a rationale to label all who favor common-sense limitations on immigration as some kind of "extremists". This is the problem with the Communist-inspired far left's usage of such extremist hate rhetoric, but then again I suspect that the Dutch Green Party and the Dutch Socialists are secretly happy with Fortuyn's untimely demise and it seems likely that they will do what they can to try to benefit from it and turn it to their advantage politically.
2 posted on 05/07/2002 11:43:21 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
Why is it that the left so vilifies the right when it expresses opposition to immigration?

I'll tell you why. Immigration is the ultimate weapon that will allow the left, both in Europe and in the USA, to destroy Western Culture.

4 posted on 05/07/2002 11:53:28 AM PDT by Kobyashi1942
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To: rightwing2
see also
Death of Dutch innocence sends a shiver through Europe (killer had environmentalist propaganda) ...
5 posted on 05/07/2002 11:53:30 AM PDT by flamefront
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To: rightwing2
Why is it that the left so vilifies the right when it expresses opposition to immigration?

The Left is trying to dismantle the bases for traditional social cohesion--in effect, depriving the intended subject populations of any basis to work together effectively to strike back. A homogenious population group, proud of their heritage, are a real threat to those who pursue a Collectivist, conformist, world order.

If you look at what is accepted in terms of group identification, and what is not, you will see over and over again--both in America and in Europe--the same pattern. A grouping of people with a sense of grievance--i.e. people looking to the Government to make things right--is acceptable. A grouping of people with a Conservative tradition, who want to be left alone, is not.

The Nationalist, who loves his own country and his own kith and kin, has no place in their new world order. He is a threat. The major reason for encouraging liberal immigration, is really to emasculate such people. You are close to being on ground zero of the real battle, when you take them on on this issue (immigration). (See, also, An American Immigration Policy, and Myths & Myth Makers In American "Higher" Education. With those articles, you will find links to a lot of others that explore different nuances of the same battle.)

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

9 posted on 05/07/2002 12:03:44 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: rightwing2
Why is it that the left so vilifies the right when it expresses opposition to immigration? It appears to be because ethnic minorities who tend to be more impoverished than longtime residents of a country tend to form the base for socialist and other far-left parties and therefore provide a rationale to label all who favor common-sense limitations on immigration as some kind of "extremists"

Your point is well taken, but there's another rationale (besides the ideological "diversity is our strength" myth) for uncontrolled immigration from Third World countries into Europe that I see constantly cited, and that is that, as the populations of Europe (i.e., the original Europeans, ethnic Europeans, white people, whatever term is politically correct these days) fail to reproduce at replacement levels, and as the demographic contour of their societies shifts to a more and more elderly profile, high levels of immigration are purportedly "necessary" to maintain economic growth, a labor pool, and a tax base to ensure continuation of the colossally expensive welfare states Western European nations have. (We're starting to see the same arguments here in defense of uncontrolled immigration, by the way).

It boils down to yet another version of "It's the Economy, Stupid."

21 posted on 05/07/2002 1:44:11 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: rightwing2
May 15 will go on. Then the left will hopefuly be crushed. I hope the leftist will be held responsible for inciting murder.

The left always killed political opponents, just ask people in Prague or former East-Germany.

It is time for the world to see that democracy, freedom of speech and the left are not compatible.

I will still vote for Fortuyn! No one will take that away from me.

IN MEMORIAM
PIM FORTUYN
1948 - 2002

For a better tomorrow!

24 posted on 05/07/2002 3:59:10 PM PDT by knighthawk
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