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No [college] Plans, No [participation in] Graduation Rite, Seniors Told (San Fernando Valley, CA)
The Los Angeles Times ^ | May 7, 2002 | David Pierson

Posted on 05/07/2002 2:29:35 AM PDT by heleny

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:26 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Policy: Only students bound for college, a trade or military can take part in ceremony.

More than 3,700 seniors at eight San Fernando Valley high schools may have taken all the English, history and math classes required for a diploma, but if they want to cross the stage at graduation, they'll first need to take big steps for their future.

Under a new, much-debated policy, those students will be allowed to participate in graduation ceremonies only if they have committed to post-secondary education or training--whether university, community college, trade school or the military.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: educationnews; leftindoctrination
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Too many colleges are hotbeds for liberal indoctrination. Forcing children to consider attending college, not to mention paying for the application costs, just for the sake of participating in a commencement ceremony, is one step in requiring (liberal) college education.

Students should go to college because they are truly interested in learning something specific, not because they want to join all their friends attending the graduation ceremony. If students who don't want to go to college start flooding colleges, it might just dilute the quality of students; professors often teach to the middle of the class, so college education might not mean anything if everyone attends. If groups of friends from families with less education don't have the requisite acceptance letters as tickets to the graduation celebration, they might not even work hard to finish getting a high school diploma, since there is less fanfare or even notice without the ceremony.

If a family does not have enough money to send a child to college, perhaps he should work for a while before attending. He will value the education more, and he will probably be more mature in college. But, under this policy he will not be able to attend his high school graduation.

The ACLU pursues so many cases that seem unnecessary to me. This case (as portrayed in this article) seems to be just as worthy of litigating as some of their other cases.

1 posted on 05/07/2002 2:29:35 AM PDT by heleny
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To: heleny
This policy is wrong. College is not for everyone. As for ACLU not suing -- of course not, they are too busy defending pedophiles.
2 posted on 05/07/2002 3:17:21 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Dante3
What the dickens does committing to college have to do with going through the graduation ceremony? Graduating from high school is an achievement that should be celebrated, particularly for a lot of inner city teens.

This policy could very well have a more deleterious effect on future students. Many of those who get the idea that they won't be recognized for their achievements in front of parents and friends are likely to just forget about graduating from high school. The diploma that comes in the mail will be perceived as nothing more than another piece of paper ala junk mail. This could very well have the effect of decreasing the number of graduates and increasing the drop-out rates.

3 posted on 05/07/2002 4:02:02 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: Real Cynic No More
I sure am glad I don't live in California. Florida is bad enough, with the attitudes of community association leaders and others with a little bit of "authority" attempting to push their agendas and ideas onto the apathetic masses. California must attract these kinds of nuts.
4 posted on 05/07/2002 4:03:59 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: heleny
I smell a freep coming on..
5 posted on 05/07/2002 4:05:07 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: heleny
I don't know who they think they're hurting. I, for one, would have loved to skip the ceremony, but we were told no attendance, no diploma. They held our diploma hostage in the exact opposite direction! I would have loved for the excuse not to go: "I am staying away as a protest in support of those who are not allowed to go." :-)
6 posted on 05/07/2002 4:12:56 AM PDT by dagny taggert
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To: heleny
And if a graduating student aims to go right into Christian Missionary service?
7 posted on 05/07/2002 4:29:25 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: heleny
It's probably to keep the gang-bangers from shooting up graduation.
8 posted on 05/07/2002 4:30:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Real Cynic No More
Any moron can graduate high school. They had to cancel graduation testing in some areas because it was keeping too many kids from getting a diploma.
9 posted on 05/07/2002 4:32:07 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
I think you broke-a da code, AppyPappy...
10 posted on 05/07/2002 4:36:03 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Millburn Drysdale
Nope. The diploma is still awarded; you just don't get to participate in the ceremony itself. Like AppyPappy, I think this is to keep the hoodlum element out of commencement ceremonies.
12 posted on 05/07/2002 4:41:38 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: heleny
When compared to all the other states, california ranks 47th out of 50 in educational quality. Why bother going to graduation? A high school diploma from a cal public school might as well be printed on toilet paper, at least that way it could be used for something.
13 posted on 05/07/2002 4:46:07 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: Real Cynic No More
Graduating from high school is an achievement that should be celebrated, particularly for a lot of inner city teens.

I totally agree. This part of LAUSD isn't the inner city, though. They are in the San Fernando Valley, which is trying to secede from Los Angeles. (not sure of the details about exactly which parts, or whether all of these schools are included.)

list of affected schools, according to the article:
Birmingham, Cleveland, Grant, Reseda, Taft, Van Nuys, Sherman Oaks Center for Enriched Studies, and Valley Alternative

Taft High School has won the national Academic Decathlon twice (at least once in the past ten years, I think).

14 posted on 05/07/2002 4:50:18 AM PDT by heleny
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To: Millburn Drysdale
What this district is trying to do is pump up the statistics artificially. They will then be able to say that 100% of their graduates go on to some form of post-secondary education, therefore they are a great public school system

Sadly, I think you may be right. From the article, "Initial estimates show that 90% to 95% of District C seniors have made a post-secondary commitment this year. Last year, without the policy, 54% took that step."

15 posted on 05/07/2002 4:52:56 AM PDT by heleny
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To: Psalm 73
go right into Christian Missionary service?

I'll bet they didn't consider this. If the mission is only for a year, students sometimes apply for college, get accepted, and then request to postpone enrollment. If the mission is two years, though, not so many colleges allow the deferment. A lot of students seem to go to college for a year or two before going on a mission, and then return to finish their degrees.
Discrimination against religion?

16 posted on 05/07/2002 4:57:15 AM PDT by heleny
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To: dagny taggert
we were told no attendance, no diploma

When I was in HS, not in LAUSD, thankfully, we looked forward to graduation. We were told that anyone who missed a graduation practice (held three times, the week of graduation, while everyone else took final exams) would be excluded from participating in the graduation ceremony.

Also, if there was a senior ditch day, defined by a certain large percentage of absences on any school day, then graduation and grad night (all night at Disneyland, the night after graduation) would be cancelled for all seniors.

17 posted on 05/07/2002 5:03:38 AM PDT by heleny
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To: glockmeister40
california ranks 47th out of 50 in educational quality

Yes, California does rank poorly. But, these San Fernando Valley schools aren't in the worst areas of CA.

18 posted on 05/07/2002 5:06:43 AM PDT by heleny
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To: Dante3
A Racist policy???
19 posted on 05/07/2002 5:44:19 AM PDT by jackbill
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More silliness in the LAUSD reported in the LA Times on May 1, 2002:
LAUSD requires ten failing schools to implement a dress code for teachers: ties and pantyhose, no sneakers or jeans -- part of a "loyalty oath" to appear more professional as role models. Teachers protest, for reasons from the choice in individuality in dress (lots of blacks, so some may want to wear "traditional" clothes) to the unproven efficacy of the plan.

Teachers Protest Dress Code

Schools: L.A. Unified urges troubled campuses to follow guidelines.

Nearly 100 teachers at Mount Vernon Middle School met with Los Angeles Unified School District officials to protest what they call a "loyalty oath," a dress code and other changes mandated at certain troubled campuses.

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Under a "staff commitment form" created by the district for Mount Vernon, male teachers will be required to wear ties and slacks; women who wear dresses must wear pantyhose. No jeans or athletic shoes will be allowed. If teachers refuse to abide by these and other requirements on the form, they must apply for transfer to another campus. They will not be terminated.

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"If you are a teacher and you don't want to do it, you are welcome to go elsewhere," Romer said in an interview at district headquarters. "We're trying to salvage schools that are failing. We're trying to do something for the children."

At Mount Vernon, the district is also requiring staff members to be open to experimenting with or changing teaching methods, to communicate with students' parents, to maintain high energy and to attend all mandated staff development sessions.

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Mount Vernon is one of 10 Los Angeles Unified schools that state auditors found had failed to improve test scores despite four years of warnings....

[the other schools are] Avalon Gardens Elementary School; Gompers, Horace Mann and Sun Valley middle schools; and [John C. Fremont], Jefferson, Locke, Roosevelt and Wilson high schools.


20 posted on 05/07/2002 5:53:48 AM PDT by heleny
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