Adding Trillions Of Years To The Life Of The Universe

spacedaily.com ^ | 3 May 02 | staff

[Robert A Cook PE]

Plasma theory is more realistic, in my hiumble opinion.

15 billion years is too short a time to create the needed haevy metals from H2 - if you use current supernova populations and lifetimes.... combined with the "less than speed of light" requirement for "moving" the newly-created heavier atoms between subsequent supernova's.

If you assume supernova's were more common (with a much, much faster lifetimes between initial stellar birth through supernova) in early time, then you must explain why they are tens of thousands of times slower now.

Barring all that ... why not congratulate the author of Genisis for getting the entire evolution, continental drift, and cosmic creation Story right?

His sequence is correct .... just off a little bit in the powers-of-ten decimal place(s)! [Not bad if you consider zero's hadn't been invented yet.]

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Neil Turok is a Vulcan time-traveller from the future.

[steve-b]

The thing about it that I really liked was that because time is infinite, every possible permutation of initial conditions would eventually repeat, also an infinite number of times.
In other words, we've all been here before an infinite number of times and will be here in the future an infinite number of times. And not only as ourselves, but as every possible permutation of ourselves, experiencing every possible outcome to our lives . . . Someday RightWhale will be president!!! :-)

And someday Clinton will be in jail. :-)

[Tauzero]

Great theory, except that our half is the dark universe. Stanley, Zev, and Kai are from the light universe.

[RightWhale]

I kind of agree. It seems like our sun is a second-generation star, or maybe third-generation. If stars live 5 billion years before exploding to create heavier elements, then there would be just time for the sun to be created from older debris with no rest period for tired nuclei. It's just a nagging feelng that the galaxy might be a lot older than 15 billion years so the creation of the heavier elemnents could proceed at a more leasurely pace.

[MEGoody]

Ah, so you think the universe isn't really trillions of years old, rather it is less than 100 years old? If that's not the case, than no one alive is observing the 'birth' of the universe.

[RightWhale]

the universe isn't really trillions of years old

It's much older. And being born right now. The brane, fractal, and gravastar ideas all support that idea to some degree.

[ecomcon]

No, see, it was a joke, a play on words. See, there's this Ramones song,....(sigh) ah, never mind.

[jpl]

No one observed the beginning of the universe

Except for maybe Arthur Dent, Zaphod Beeblebrox, and a few others...

[billbears]

SQUEAK?

[Doomonyou]

An energy field that pervades the universe...

Yeah, kinda like "The Force."

[RightWhale]

kinda like "The Force."

More like mattress padding.

[eddie willers]

Someday RightWhale will be president!!! :-)

As Woody Allen said when asked what he'd like to come back as:

"Warren Beatty's fingertips."

[longshadow]

Do any of these turtles have elephants walking on their backs?

Doubtful; to top-most turtle has the Universe on its back, and he's standing on the back of the one beneath him, and so on, ad infinitum. Not much room for elephants.

[PatrickHenry]

Eternally oscillating universe bump. Turtles everywhere!

[edwin hubble]

Thanks for the ping, longshadow.

I love Hawking's turtle story. It is told as a true anecdote.
Fascinating thing about the natural sciences is that there seems to be an infinite array of surprises and mysteries laid out before us ...

[Thumper1960]

Man created "God" in his own image.

What better way to explain the inexplicable? To comprehend the incomprehensible?

God is best described as the "Creator", and not as the Heavenly "Father". God may well be a somewhat Cosmic Consciousness that naturally guides the infinite creation and re-creation of all that "is".

Theory, really.

[Doctor Stochastic]

The fact is, since no one observed it occuring, it's pretty much guesswork.

It does seem a bit like the Blake and OJ "crimes," doesn't it?

[danmar]

there is a kind of stability in cyclical processes, a permanence.

I am no scientist, but many years ago I have read that the Universe is "infinite" another words "no beginning and no end" it just exist.
Now the Bible sez that God is the "alpha and omega" of everything.I did not know that God speaks greek, since the greeks have their own mythology and self proclaimed Gods!

I am not trying to stir up any controversy, but this is a subject I have tried to get some straight answers since I was a little kid. My parents, strong christian believers, had told me "son, do not ask for proof, just trust God's word".
Well, I do believe to some degree, but I can not blindly subscribe to everything what one tells me, just because it is written in the Bible.

I think this makes me a "Thomas" who did not believe that Jesus Christ was crucified unless he had felt the actual wounds made by the nails.