Posted on 05/02/2002 11:08:58 AM PDT by mhking
1 May 2002
Israeli soldiers who have taken part in the invasion of 1967 Palestine used torn pages from the Quran to wipe themselves.
At the opening meeting of the Knesset's summer session yesterday Arab Member of the Knesset Ahmed Tibi accused soldiers of "wiping their butts" with pages of the Holy Quran during the so-called Operation Defensive Shield.
"They take a Koran and use it to wipe themselves in the bathroom, your soldiers, your boys," Tibi said.
"You should be ashamed of yourselves. What a disgrace." Tibi also accused the IDF of making men walk naked. "Is this a war on terror or civilized behavior," he asked.
Tibi then demanded that Jewish members of the Knesset condemn the behaviour of the IDF soldiers.
The word you are floundering around trying to spell is "hypocrisy" and could be applied to those claiming to know something about the Koran when they haven't even read it.
BTW the religious books of the other religions: Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish all contain great stores of wisdom and flights of great insight into the human condition as well as many lines of great poetic beauty. Not as much as the Bible but some. None of the above is in the Koran.
It reads just as you would suppose something collecting the sayings of an illiterate caravan thief would read. Crude, ugly stupid twisting of the earlier Torah and Bible. Without a shred of wisdom or insight or beautiful poetry. Read it or stop complaining when those who have point out truths about it. It is a complete waste of paper.
You must have read the Gita about as closely as you read the Koran. In that same vein, I suppose you regard the Bible as a disjointed series of narratives about what assorted sheep herders did 2000 years ago?
Strange, it was gone for a bit on my reply application, but it is definitely back. I've had problems with my brower not loading things for a while now.
I forgot to spell check, so shoot me. As to "knowing" about the Koran, I never made that claim. All I said was that it was someone's Holy book and it is smart guy. You may not think its holy, but that's a long way from proving its not holy. I guess I didn't know one's holy book had to have stories. What about pictures? Does that make a book more holy?
Once I again I refer you to this quote: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods [religions, holy books, etc.], you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts
What do you say to those who claim yourholy book is not holy and only worth ass wipe.
Okay, smart guy. Why not clarify for all your readers that the Talmud is a man-made collection of (often conflicting) traditions and commentaries on the Scripture by (uninspired and fallible) rebbes.
The Old Testament Scriptures, brought to us by the medium of inspired Jewish writers not only do NOT disparage Yeshua (or Mary), but, rather, PREDICT and FORETELL the coming (both First and Second Advents) of Yeshua in many dramatically clear ways.
Fess up, Jew-hater.
No. This time you are wrong. Yes, the Talmud contains many traditions that predate the birth of Christ, but it also contains passages that are as recent as the Middle Ages.
Bold Fenian is technically correct, but he is obviously motivated by a hatred of the Jews. (See my post #69 to him.)
It seems like every day, I get a message from Microsoft saying they want to download a new fix to their browser. What a piece of junk. But with Netscape using the government as a club, I won't use their software.
L
Outwardly performing all actions but inwardly renouncing their fruits, the wise man, purified by the fire of transcendental knowledge, attains peace, detachment, forebearance,spiritual knowledge and bliss.
As you state I have read it with the same degree of understanding as I did the Koran. And it is obvious that nothing in the Koran comes close to the wisdom and beauty of the Gita.
What do you think the story is about? Or have you not read either?
That's why I luv ya Linda :-)
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