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Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance
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Posted on 04/30/2002 4:30:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod

Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance

A group of parents are calling for the resignation of Rancho Bernardo High School's vice principal, claiming she enforced underwear checks at a school dance, 10News reported.

The dance occurred Friday and vice principal Rita Wilson turned away girls who were wearing thongs, the parent said.

Kim Teal is among the several parents angry with Wilson (pictured, right).

"First thing (my daughter) said when she got into the car was, 'Mom, it was horrible last night. You have to fight this,'" Teal told 10News.

According to parent Alane Garvik, girls who arrived at the dance wearing short skirts were immediately asked: "What kind of underwear do you have on?"

When Garvik's daughter red-facedly announced that she was wearing thong underwear she was told to "go home and put on appropriate underwear," according to Garvik.

Teal's daughter made it in and claims to have witnessed faculty lifting the skirts of girls to assure that the offending underwear was going nowhere near the dance floor.

"Well, I just saw ... a line of people and the vice principal, Mrs. Wilson, she was checking to see what the girls were wearing under their dresses. And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else," one student told 10News.

Parents and students have placed the blame on Wilson, for spearheading the thong underwear checks, even though there is nothing in the school dress code against them.

"It's not their right to know what kind of underwear these kids have," Garvik told 10News.

10News contacted school officials, who all declined to go on camera. But Principal Paul Gentle did say that he is "looking into the situation."

Parents are now asking for Wilson to resign.

Gentle said that even while enforcing the school dress code, it is not proper procedure to ask students what they are wearing underneath their clothes.

He told 10News that he plans to meet with parents sometime this week.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
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To: tomkat
They were all Educated men. And they lived in a much simpler world. AAMOF, Thomas Jefferson spent most of his later years, and a considerable portion of his money, to create the Public University of Va.....
281 posted on 04/30/2002 8:55:35 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
isn't that what you all are decrying vis-a-vis condoms, and the rest of the sex ed curriculum?

Distributing condoms and teaching sex-ed is a violation of PARENTAL RIGHTS. Government schools have no authority to do that. But they also cannot tell parents how to dress their minor children. That is a violation of parental rights also. Hell, mandatory public education is a violation of parental rights in and of itself.

282 posted on 04/30/2002 8:56:32 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: BillofRights
Yes, there is a distinction, however, a case can be made that an uneducated people are incapable of providing the general defense. Much more so now, in the electronic age, than in the day of the musket.
283 posted on 04/30/2002 8:56:58 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: Publius6961
And I firmly believe that as a local issue, community standards should prevail.

The community has no right to tell me what kind of under garments to wear. There may be exceptions depending on what kind of outer clothing is used e.g. a see through blouse. But to do a general underwear check is absolutely not within the school's scope or power.

284 posted on 04/30/2002 8:57:03 AM PDT by Michael_S
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To: southern rock;tomkat;BillofRights
Guys it;s been fun, and I'll probably check back later, but for now, you three harry Browne disciples have kept me form important things ..(Like the gym..) for far too long...
285 posted on 04/30/2002 8:58:41 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: vin-one
I have teenage daughters and they wear them and like them. I will not let them wear them with Mini's skirts, for that matter let them wear mini's at all.

Perhaps the father of a couple of sons out there might let you know what his sons say about and think about girls wearing underwear like that.

Now tell me, since you are so proud of your decison to buy your teen daughters string bikini underwear, would you be willing to wash them and then hang them on the outside cloth line to dry? Out where the neighbors can see them?

Would you be willing to suggest theses as a gift to anyone who asked you what they could get the girls for thier birthdays?

When I dress in my work clothes, with hammer and hammer hanger, I feel like a carpenter. When I put on a suit and visit somene in the hospital, I feel like visiting clergy. When I have on my orange and am carrying a rifle through the woods in the fall, I feel like a deer hunter. And when I put on my Sunday suit and stand behind the pulpit, I feel like a preacher.

How do you think your girls feel when they put on a string for underpants? A lady?
Alas

286 posted on 04/30/2002 8:59:19 AM PDT by Alas
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To: KneelBeforeZod
They should have sent a dress code handout to be distributed to the kids noting how bad it would be to be embarressed and sent home to change if an infraction is detected.

This pro-ctive "up against the wall MF!" attitude is one sure to scar the memories of an important social event like this one.

The Vice principal has a thong sized brain.

287 posted on 04/30/2002 8:59:27 AM PDT by Glutton
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To: hobbes1
So, then with regards to 267/268, are you saying then that the school is required to adopt an anything goes attitude...
isn't that what you all are decrying vis-a-vis condoms, and the rest of the sex ed curriculum?

you are attempting, none to nimbly, to avoid the main issue here.

what of the young woman who, while wearing a thong, also chose to wear a knee-length, yet 'billowy' skirt ?
in the course of a dance, while executing some kind of spin step, the billowing of said skirt exposes the evil thong.
further, assume that the girl in the mini/grannie drawers combo is a wallflower type, and would have stayed true to form throughout the dance.

why was one subjected to public humiliation and the other was not ?

288 posted on 04/30/2002 9:01:51 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: BillofRights
Suppose the principal had been a male, instead of a female -- would the same behavior have been equally acceptable? If you say, "yes" -- you will be viewed as a pervert. If you say, "no" -- you will be viewed as sexist.

We're not playing "suppose" here; we're talking about a specific, individual case. Your hypothetical is only a hypothetical.

The answer is -- the principal's behavior was unacceptable and the case is actionable in a court of law. It's a clear violation of the 4th Amendment. It constitutes an illegal search and a violation of privacy rights.

You've got your personal opinion and nothing else---no law, no precedent, nothing. All USSC precedent, in fact, seems to suggest the exactly opposite of what you think is right.


289 posted on 04/30/2002 9:02:14 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: southern rock
Checking for thongs is an important job. Far too important for a mere vice principal. That job should have been given to the former first national role model, the former President of the United States of America. God Bless William Jefferson Clinton. Tada!
290 posted on 04/30/2002 9:02:27 AM PDT by Temple Owl
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To: hobbes1
Wow, it's amazing how you people can twist and bend that Constitution so that it is unrecognizable. That document is the basis for the greatest government ever formed and it is not "elastic." It is succinct and clear in its wording and intent. If we allow it to become a "living, breathing document" as the Leftists would like us to believe, then it ceases to have any meaning. That's a dangerous road you are going down my friend.
291 posted on 04/30/2002 9:02:59 AM PDT by BillofRights
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Your logic is becoming more and more tortured.
292 posted on 04/30/2002 9:04:05 AM PDT by BillofRights
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To: hobbes1
a case can be made that an uneducated people are incapable of providing the general defense.

they did a pretty fair job in the latter 1770s ...

293 posted on 04/30/2002 9:05:52 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: Alas, BillofRights
When I dress in my work clothes, with hammer and hammer hanger, I feel like a carpenter. When I put on a suit and visit somene in the hospital, I feel like visiting clergy. When I have on my orange and am carrying a rifle through the woods in the fall, I feel like a deer hunter. And when I put on my Sunday suit and stand behind the pulpit, I feel like a preacher.

you might consider one relatively consistent personality.
it's generally the trademark of a rational human adult...

subliminal BoR ping - LOL

294 posted on 04/30/2002 9:09:54 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: BillofRights
Your logic is becoming more and more tortured.

Hey---I'm sorry you can't grasp a few basic principles of constitutional law. Not that I'm an expert, but I certainly didn't fall asleep in class when they were talking about this kind of stuff.


295 posted on 04/30/2002 9:10:48 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Alas
Alas, they probably feel more confident and attractive since they don't have to worry about embarrasing pantie lines.

Thongs are a practical choice. And nobody's business but their own. If they choose to make a display of their rear ends on the dance floor, that's another matter; but pre-emptive strikes on underwaer are a total invasion of privacy and completely unwarranted.

296 posted on 04/30/2002 9:11:30 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: tomkat
Sounds like Alas has multiple personality disorder. He oughta get some help for that, huh?
297 posted on 04/30/2002 9:14:36 AM PDT by BillofRights
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
...but I certainly didn't fall asleep in class when they were talking about this kind of stuff...

Guess you were just day dreaming, then!

298 posted on 04/30/2002 9:16:24 AM PDT by BillofRights
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To: Alas, hobbes1
Thank you. Yes, I am blessed to be the mother of two wonderful high school children. I will admit, however, that their attending Christian school since kindergarten has assisted me tremendously in instilling proper morals. They share with me and we discuss the dilemmas other children and their families face like lives ruined by teenaged pregnancy or drugs and families shattered from drunk driving deaths.

With respect to the grandmother, I'm afraid Hobbes1 hit the nail on the head. Since her husband died a few years ago, granny has attempted to relive her youth and gone completely off the deep end. Although it saddens us, the children and I have discussed her behavior as well.

299 posted on 04/30/2002 9:16:45 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: tomkat
they did a pretty fair job in the latter 1770s ...

Hey, that's a pretty good point. I remember reading about three guys in the Revolutionary war....James The Computer Tech, Timonious the Jet Mechanic....and Robert the Navigational Aids technician....

300 posted on 04/30/2002 9:16:46 AM PDT by hobbes1
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