Posted on 04/30/2002 4:30:34 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
Thong-Wearing Teens Kicked Out Of Dance
A group of parents are calling for the resignation of Rancho Bernardo High School's vice principal, claiming she enforced underwear checks at a school dance, 10News reported.
The dance occurred Friday and vice principal Rita Wilson turned away girls who were wearing thongs, the parent said.
Kim Teal is among the several parents angry with Wilson (pictured, right).
"First thing (my daughter) said when she got into the car was, 'Mom, it was horrible last night. You have to fight this,'" Teal told 10News.
According to parent Alane Garvik, girls who arrived at the dance wearing short skirts were immediately asked: "What kind of underwear do you have on?"
When Garvik's daughter red-facedly announced that she was wearing thong underwear she was told to "go home and put on appropriate underwear," according to Garvik.
Teal's daughter made it in and claims to have witnessed faculty lifting the skirts of girls to assure that the offending underwear was going nowhere near the dance floor.
"Well, I just saw ... a line of people and the vice principal, Mrs. Wilson, she was checking to see what the girls were wearing under their dresses. And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else," one student told 10News.
Parents and students have placed the blame on Wilson, for spearheading the thong underwear checks, even though there is nothing in the school dress code against them.
"It's not their right to know what kind of underwear these kids have," Garvik told 10News.
10News contacted school officials, who all declined to go on camera. But Principal Paul Gentle did say that he is "looking into the situation."
Parents are now asking for Wilson to resign.
Gentle said that even while enforcing the school dress code, it is not proper procedure to ask students what they are wearing underneath their clothes.
He told 10News that he plans to meet with parents sometime this week.
There can't be that many hoochie girls in one high school to cause this kind of problem.
There will be no suit. The parents will be trying to find someone willing to go on a contingency...lol
Somehow I don't think a lawyer is going to donate to this cause....
Like in private, and before the event?
Isn't that what caused the ruckus in the first place?
--Boris
So you're insinuating that every girl or woman who wears a thong is doing so for reasons of comfort and gave no thought to the opposite sex when donning them?
I never used the word 'slut' so don't try to 'put words into my mouth'.
And, I never said 'women'. I used the phrase "young ladies of this age ". A slightly different standard of reasonable attire applies to the two groups.
Again, you're attempting to attribute statements to me that I never made.
A grown woman doesn't need to give a reason why she wants to wear a thong. A young teenage girl under the guidance of an attentive adult most certainly does.
Besides, what do you think these girls had in mind when they slipped into these thongs?
Inadequate underwear that appears to have been discovered only due to a search, and that probably was not in plain view upon entry. I would suggest the school should have waited until the thong actually made a public appearance, and then acted.
"a line of people and the vice principal ... And she was literally lifting up their skirts and embarrassing them in front of everyone else,"
If the community standard is to lift up teen girls skirts in the presence of the boys in the school, then they are a community of perverts. (I like it)
I notice that community standards has not managed to make a rule against thong underware but is totally capricious and arbitrary. Those are totalitarian community standards.
So9
The proposition as I understand it was that HG said that if a case against the school or the district or some school official ever made it to court, he would bet $100 that the parents/students would lose. IOW, if it ever gets to court, the school would eventually prevail. That is, after running its course through the appeals process ("eventually"), the school will not be held civilly liable for this incident.
yes. Closing the Barn door AFTER the horse is gone, is always, the correct response...sheesh.
IT WAS A DANCE. The action was implied. (like the kidlet in the road analogy....)
Gee Mr. Policeman, don't you dare stop and quiz that guy walking into the bank, just because he put a stocking over his head on the way in, it's a free country and he can wear whatever he likes. My reading of the 4th Amend. dictates that you have to wait till he pulls a gun or demands money....
Can't you see that there's an unspoken piece of this story. Something has gone down that makes this necessary. Wonder what it was?
Not to mention the dancing that is simulated sex that Oreilly, I think, ran a piece on a few months back. Combine that with a naked bottom and it looks like a brothel.
All that vp needs to counter your lawyer is a clearly expressed policy preceding the dance. Schools are permitted to establish such policies by law. And it's no different than a football coach or a baseball coach making a guys "jock strap" or "jock cup" check. And they do that, and they've done that for years, and it's absolutely not any different.
Bring on your lawyer and I'll make sure the judge knows you need to pay costs.
Settlement or no, I think you're right - these folks will never get a final judgement from the courts in their favor.
parents should figure out that the std thing wasnt around when they were their kids age, if they dont have any moral understanding.
Right. The bet is that the "parents" will not prevail in a civil suit over the "school" based on any B-o-R type of offense. If the parents don't file a suit, no bet.But you're right: it is a sucker bet, and I'll feel a moment of guilt when I collect my 2 bills.
"First thing (my daughter) said when she got into the car was, 'Mom, it was horrible last night. You have to fight this,'" Teal told 10News.
If the daughter had come home in rough shape because her scantily clad privates proved to be to much of a temptation for a couple of football players, Mom would be mad too. And lawsuits would ensue. The school is culpable for the safety of students at school functions. However unseemly this "inspection" was, it's only a reaction to parental irresponsiblity.
BTW, public schools suck in all ways, and my kid will never darken the door of one.
omniscience must quite the burden, ehh ?
ya know, we used to have a Fourteenth Amendment in this nation too.
then some folks with your kind of 'logic' managed to slip in a little thing called the Interstate Commerce Clause ...
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